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[lostinidlewonder]

- Did you know that this is funny?

[chopin2015]

By chopin? Hahachaa

[lostinidlewonder]

I know lol. I like it how the band all shift back in their seats

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Alright guys, get ready...  Because this is freaking crazy.

So...

This is how it is...

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There are more possible five minute combinations of sounds (songs, piece, work, whatever you wanna call it) that are within the human Audio frequency spectrum than there are all of the atoms in 787,500 UNIVERSES!!!

So freaking take every single atom in this universe, and multiply it by 787,500.

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WHAT THE FREAKING HECK?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[j_menz]

There are more possible five minute combinations of sounds (songs, piece, work, whatever you wanna call it) that are within the human Audio frequency spectrum than there are all of the atoms in 787,500 UNIVERSES!!!

Firstly, the audio spectrum is continuous, not quantized, so there are an infinite number of pitches leading to an infinite number of combinations (infinity factorial or thereabouts) which is a bigger number than I believe you are suggesting.

Also, who counted the atoms in the universe and what makes them so sure that other universes will have a similar number?

[ajspiano]

Also, who counted the atoms in the universe and what makes them so sure that other universes will have a similar number?

Isn't the theory that the universe is expanding exponentially anyway..?  or does it do that with a finite number of atoms..?

[outin]

Also, who counted the atoms in the universe

Theoretical physicists do this type of thing all the time...They also know about particles that no-one has ever witnessed  

[outin]

Isn't the theory that the universe is expanding exponentially anyway..?  or does it do that with a finite number of atoms..?

The amount of matter and energy in the universe is supposed to be constant. Since matter can be converted to energy and atoms can split, the count may change. But the expanding does not mean expanding of matter.

[chopin2015]

That is a suspiciously small number of atoms....considering there is at most a billion songs...unless there are other organisms in a parallel universe that write "songs"

[j_menz]

Theoretical physicists

You mean those guys that managed to lose 97% of the Universe in the last few decades?

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Firstly, the audio spectrum is continuous, not quantized, so there are an infinite number of pitches leading to an infinite number of combinations (infinity factorial or thereabouts) which is a bigger number than I believe you are suggesting.

Also, who counted the atoms in the universe and what makes them so sure that other universes will have a similar number?

HUMAN audio spectrum.

We can't hear everything.

[outin]

You mean those guys that managed to lose 97% of the Universe in the last few decades?

Yep!

But they also invented new universes to make up for it

[chopin2015]

HUMAN audio spectrum.

We can't hear everything.

We probably cant hear 50 percent of the soundsiano really makes!

[j_menz]

HUMAN audio spectrum.

We can't hear everything.

That chops of the ends, it doesn't affect the divisibility. Still infinite. 

[rachmaninoff_forever]

That chops of the ends, it doesn't affect the divisibility. Still infinite. 

Oh yeah that's right...

[lostinidlewonder]

Alright guys, get ready...  Because this is freaking crazy.

So...

This is how it is...

...
...
...

There are more possible five minute combinations of sounds (songs, piece, work, whatever you wanna call it) that are within the human Audio frequency spectrum than there are all of the atoms in 787,500 UNIVERSES!!!

So freaking take every single atom in this universe, and multiply it by 787,500.

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- Did you know that 1 divided by zero is infinity!??!?!?! OMG!!!! RUN!!! lol

[j_menz]

- Did you know that 1 divided by zero is infinity!??!?!?! OMG!!!! RUN!!! lol

Excel says it's #DIV0! and excel is always right.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Well anyways, here's another good one.

So the hotter an object gets, the shorter the weavelength of the radiation it emits gets.

So anyways, if an object were to get hotter than 1.41x10^32 kelvin, it would be hotter than temperature!  Soo hot that what it is wouldn't be considered a temperature.

Because the wavelength that object would emit is shorter than the shortest distance in the universe (Planck distance).

Dude what the freaking heck is going on here?!

[chopin2015]

- Did you know that 1 divided by zero is infinity!??!?!?! OMG!!!! RUN!!! lol

I thought it was 1!

[outin]

Excel says it's #DIV0! and excel is always right.

 

So my math teacher was wrong when she absolutely forbid ever doing this  

[chopin2015]

Well anyways, here's another good one.

So the hotter an object gets, the shorter the weavelength of the radiation it emits gets.

So anyways, if an object were to get hotter than 1.41x10^32 kelvin, it would be hotter than temperature!  Soo hot that what it is wouldn't be considered a temperature.

Because the wavelength that object would emit is shorter than the shortest distance in the universe (Planck distance).

Dude what the freaking heck is going on here?!

What about if you reflect it off a mirro

So my math teacher was wrong when she absolutely forbid ever doing this   

What about if you reflect it off something?

[outin]

Well anyways, here's another good one.

So the hotter an object gets, the shorter the weavelength of the radiation it emits gets.

So anyways, if an object were to get hotter than 1.41x10^32 kelvin, it would be hotter than temperature!  Soo hot that what it is wouldn't be considered a temperature.

Because the wavelength that object would emit is shorter than the shortest distance in the universe (Planck distance).

Dude what the freaking heck is going on here?!

That's how these guys (the above mentioned theoretical physicist) solve their problems

[j_menz]

if an object were to get hotter than 1.41x10^32 kelvin,

Wouldn't it be energetic enough to disintegrate atomically well before then? Ie, become just photons? How would you hold it and keep heating it?

[j_menz]

That's how these guys (the above mentioned theoretical physicist) solve their problems

The ones I've known all used variously faceted dice.

[outin]

I think I will apply similar thinking to me playing Bach...When it gets bad enough it's so bad it is not considered playing Bach anymore, so I am not actually playing it bad at all

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Wouldn't it be energetic enough to disintegrate atomically well before then? Ie, become just photons? How would you hold it and keep heating it?

Just smash a bunch of particles in particle accelerator.

We've reached a couple exakelvin at CERN.

But we haven't been able to get to the point where you get to the Planck distance.

That would be soooo cool!

Because theoretically you can always add ex energy to make it hotter, and the wavelength of the radiation would get shorter.  But wait, the Planck distance is the shortest distance in the universe!  So what the freaking heck would happen!  Would it become hotter...  Than temperature?

[chopin2015]

Just smash a bunch of subatomic particles at the speed of light in a particle collider.  

Why not 1126 ft/s?

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[lostinidlewonder]

- Did you know that lately my threads have been so controversial that my last 4/4 have been locked? Not that it matters since I managed to say what I wanted to in all of them but when people have different opinions isn't it amazing the amount of conversation that goes on? All this agreeing is boring sometimes.

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=50174.0
https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=49941.0
https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=50155.0
https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=49944.0

[j_menz]

Just smash a bunch of particles in particle accelerator.

Perhaps you should calculate the size of the accelerator required before you say "just".

[lloyd_cdb]

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Perhaps you should calculate the size of the accelerator required before you say "just".

Isn't the LHC at CERN like 7 miles long?  

It accelerates the particles at 99.999% the speed of light.  

Of course you can always power up the magnets right?

Sure you can, but since you can't go faster the than the speed of light, the extra energy manifests itself in to weight.  So the particles actually becomes heavier, and they travel into the future.

[j_menz]

Isn't the LHC at CERN like 7 miles long?  

It accelerates the particles at 99.999% the speed of light.  

Of course you can always power up the magnets right?

Correct, but there is a limit to the power you can apply so to impart more energy they need to be longer, that's why they keep building (or at kleast dreaming about) new ones.

Sure you can, but since you can't go faster the than the speed of light, the extra energy manifests itself in to weight.  So the particles actually becomes heavier, and they travel into the future.

If you mean that as the speed of a body approaches c it experiences relativistic time, mass and length dilation then, yes.  Not exactly travelling into the future, though.

One side effect of the mass dilation is that as a body approaches the speed of light the energy required to accelerate it (make it go any faster than it is) increases exponentially.

[lloyd_cdb]

Isn't the theory that the universe is expanding exponentially anyway..?  or does it do that with a finite number of atoms..?

Not expanding exponentially, but accelerating nonetheless. Recently, a niche theory is starting to gain popularity that contradicts the popular 'dark matter' theory of acceleration. It's more simply that gravity acts different in different environments.

If I remember correctly...

[chopin2015]

Correct, but there is a limit to the power you can apply so to impart more energy they need to be longer, that's why they keep building (or at kleast dreaming about) new ones.


If you mean that as the speed of a body approaches c it experiences relativistic time, mass and length dilation then, yes.  Not exactly travelling into the future, though.

One side effect of the mass dilation is that as a body approaches the speed of light the energy required to accelerate it (make it go any faster than it is) increases exponentially.

Log?..

[j_menz]

It's more simply that gravity acts different in different environments.

It works overtime whenever I step on the scales, so the theory must be true! 

[j_menz]

Log?..

Do you mean



or



or



Either way, I meant exponentially.

[lloyd_cdb]

One side effect of the mass dilation is that as a body approaches the speed of light the energy required to accelerate it (make it go any faster than it is) increases exponentially.

The way around that is the (theoretical) Alcubierre drive. It warps space time around an object so it doesn't actually move, but the space around it contracts in front and expands behind allowing you to effectively be transplanted faster than c while not experiencing time dilation (theoretically ~10c). It was proposed in the 90's and has had some incredible theoretical advances over the time span. The issue is that (in theory) it takes an astronomical amount of energy. When originally proposed it took more energy than exists in the universe. Other mathematicians reduced that several solar masses, then the mass-energy of Jupiter. A guy last year reduced it to 700kg of mass-energy. Neat stuff. Problem is that it requires negative energy...

Oh, and in regards to time travel, a twisted application of this drive has weird side effects:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnikov_tube
My favorite sentence:
"It is presumed that a similar mechanism which destroys time-machine wormholes will destroy the time-machine Krasnikov tubes. That is, vacuum fluctuation will grow exponentially and eventually destroy the Second Krasnikov tube as it approaches the timelike loop limit, in which causality is violated."

Ah, gotcha.

[chopin2015]

The way around that is the (theoretical) Alcubierre drive. It warps space time around an object so it doesn't actually move, but the space around it contracts in front and expands behind allowing you to effectively be transplanted faster than c while not experiencing time dilation (theoretically ~10c). It was proposed in the 90's and has had some incredible theoretical advances over the time span. The issue is that (in theory) it takes an astronomical amount of energy. When originally proposed it took more energy than exists in the universe. Other mathematicians reduced that several solar masses, then the mass-energy of Jupiter. A guy last year reduced it to 700kg of mass-energy. Neat stuff. Problem is that it requires negative energy...

Oh, and in regards to time travel, a twisted application of this drive has weird side effects:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnikov_tube
My favorite sentence:
"It is presumed that a similar mechanism which destroys time-machine wormholes will destroy the time-machine Krasnikov tubes. That is, vacuum fluctuation will grow exponentially and eventually destroy the Second Krasnikov tube as it approaches the timelike loop limit, in which causality is violated."

Ah, gotcha.

What kind of power transformer would you need to power a krasnikov tube?

[lloyd_cdb]

What kind of power transformer would you need to power a krasnikov tube?

More negative energy I believe. From what I understand it's just the alcubierre drive applied to an actual physical tube, so that it decreases the energy requirement. Completely impractical as it needs actual physical mass. Imagine building a tunnel to mars. Now imagine building a tunnel to the nearest star and then double that if you want to theoretically time travel through a theoretically impractical object. Theoretically.

[lloyd_cdb]

It works overtime whenever I step on the scales, so the theory must be true! 

Quit stealing my gravity, I'm tired of being called skinny.

[j_menz]

Now imagine building a tunnel to the nearest star and then double that if you want to theoretically time travel through a theoretically impractical object. Theoretically.

Done! I'm now theoretically six again.

[chopin2015]

More negative energy I believe. From what I understand it's just the alcubierre drive applied to an actual physical tube, so that it decreases the energy requirement. Completely impractical as it needs actual physical mass. Imagine building a tunnel to mars. Now imagine building a tunnel to the nearest star and then double that if you want to theoretically time travel through a theoretically impractical object. Theoretically.

I see. Do you want to go out sometime? Haha

[chopin2015]

I wish my ability to play the piano was as good as my ability to kill threads!   

[lostinidlewonder]

- Did you know fingers could be arranged to look like this?



I wonder if you play this with keys instead of fingers?

- Did you know that this is my 4000th post?

[lloyd_cdb]

I wish my ability to play the piano was as good as my ability to kill threads!   

I went to bed in those 4 minutes lol.

I see. Do you want to go out sometime? Haha

As long as you think you can handle an evening of me complaining about how I suck at piano...




- Did you know this is my 402nd post?

[thalbergmad]

- Did you know that lately my threads have been so controversial that my last 4/4 have been locked?

I don't think anyone has ever made it 5 in a row.

Thal

[chopin2015]

I went to bed in those 4 minutes lol.

As long as you think you can handle an evening of me complaining about how I suck at piano...




- Did you know this is my 402nd post?

Haha, you'd be going on a date with me and Beethoven at the same time because I have a huge tattoo portrait of him on my arm and he stares! Is that not odd? Lol

 Did you know ive been working on recording chopin ballade 1 and 2 all morning and am feeling totally exhausted?
I played all the way to the last 3 pages in 5.5 minutes o_O but it totally sucked.

[lloyd_cdb]

Haha, you'd be going on a date with me and Beethoven at the same time because I have a huge tattoo portrait of him on my arm and he stares! Is that not odd? Lol

I've seen the wonderful tattoo of him. A very accurate depiction It wouldn't be odd unless it was tattooed in a way that you could make him wink at me. That might be creepy

Did you know ive been working on recording chopin ballade 1 and 2 all morning and am feeling totally exhausted?
I played all the way to the last 3 pages in 5.5 minutes o_O but it totally sucked.

This is why I would whine the entire time. After twenty years I'm still struggling with 'Mary had a little lamb'

[chopin2015]

I've seen the wonderful tattoo of him. A very accurate depiction It wouldn't be odd unless it was tattooed in a way that you could make him wink at me. That might be creepy :oThis is why I would whine the entire time. After twenty years I'm still struggling with 'Mary had a little lamb'

Well, I wish I could do that! I wish I could make him talk, like a sick siamese twin or something, lol

Haha, well im fixing to loose an arm probably. My recordings are due in 2 hours and I cant play anymore, I'm tired and sore. 
I got a good Bach take but I cant dang play any Chopin!

[pianoplayjl]

Did you know that Prokofiev beat Capablanca in a game of chess? Capablanca was one of the greatest chess players of all time.

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1261719