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Offline mc_shas

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Easy Scriabin...?
on: May 06, 2009, 10:09:27 PM
Are there any good piano pieces by Scriabin that aren't insanely hard to play. Obviously thats a matter of perspective, but as far as I'm concerned I would be looking for something around grade 7 or 8 (ABRSM). For those of you who aren't familiar with the Associated board, I'v played things like Debusy's Golliwogs, a few Beethoven movements (1st mv pathetique), and I've get just about manage some of Rach's prelude material...a fair amount of his prelude in G min Op. 23, No. 5...However I still find that hard and it's a lil beyond my ability.

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Re: Easy Scriabin...?
Reply #1 on: May 06, 2009, 10:24:41 PM
Op. 23

I like Gould's interpretation, which you can listen to here (at least the first movement):



I would be happy to send you the rest if you care to listen. :)

on second thought that's probably against the rules or something :-|

Everyone else plays this piece much too fast. Gould is the only pianist that got it right.

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Re: Easy Scriabin...?
Reply #2 on: May 06, 2009, 11:00:52 PM
The third sonata is quite a bit leap from Golliwogs (that's an interesting link though).  Perhaps some of the Preludes or Poemes. 

A lot of people play the Op 2 Nr 1 Etude.  It would be a good intro into Scriabin's style.
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Re: Easy Scriabin...?
Reply #3 on: May 06, 2009, 11:04:31 PM
I think the 4 preludes op.22 would be good. The first is very mid-romantic sounding while the second is very late-romantic sounding. also look at the some of the preludes op.15 (not sure if that is the correct opus number, it is the 24 preludes anyway). and the etude op.12 no.11 in B-Flat minor (may be thinking of no.7, it is the slower B-flat minor).
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Re: Easy Scriabin...?
Reply #4 on: May 06, 2009, 11:05:22 PM
That sonata is definitely way harder than what they are looking for.
None of the sonatas come even close to being easy.

Take a look at some of the following pieces:
Album leaf op.45 no.1
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Feuillet d'album Op.58
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Scriabin-Masque Op.63 No.1
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There are a lot more too!  Just get the dover book of the preludes/etudes and try looking though the preludes.  There are a fair number of beautiful preludes that are not that bad technically.

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Re: Easy Scriabin...?
Reply #5 on: May 07, 2009, 12:13:26 AM
also look at the some of the preludes op.15 (not sure if that is the correct opus number, it is the 24 preludes anyway).

It's actually Op. 11. And that's a wonderful suggestion. They were my first experience with Scriabin. Nos. 5, 10 & 13 aren't very difficult technically. (Voicing can be a little tricky.)  Here are links to all 24:







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Re: Easy Scriabin...?
Reply #6 on: May 07, 2009, 12:24:41 AM
I'm playing the Poeme Op. 32 No. 1, which is on this year's ABRSM grade 8 syllabus, so it should be appropriate.
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Re: Easy Scriabin...?
Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 10:50:44 AM
Aw thanks guys,

I had a listen to everything. All really cool. I'm giving the etude op. 2 no. 1 a go. Lovely chords I think with a lil patience I should be able to play it. The left hand octave and a half spread is a bit tricky though. the first beat of the first bar for instance...should this be played as written or is it reasonable to top G sharp in the right hand? All though in the second bar that's not possible anyway. Guess I'll just need to learn to spread that left hand a lil more.

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Re: Easy Scriabin...?
Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 02:07:27 PM
Aw thanks guys,

I had a listen to everything. All really cool. I'm giving the etude op. 2 no. 1 a go. Lovely chords I think with a lil patience I should be able to play it. The left hand octave and a half spread is a bit tricky though. the first beat of the first bar for instance...should this be played as written or is it reasonable to top G sharp in the right hand? All though in the second bar that's not possible anyway. Guess I'll just need to learn to spread that left hand a lil more.

You don't need to hold all notes of the LH chord.  Just roll and use pedal to sustain the harmonies.  You'll find that good pedal technique is important in Scriabin.
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Re: Easy Scriabin...?
Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 08:02:18 PM
Wow, ??? that was way too slow
Listen to Ruth Laredo instead thats the way to play it

Op. 23

I like Gould's interpretation, which you can listen to here (at least the first movement):



I would be happy to send you the rest if you care to listen. :)

on second thought that's probably against the rules or something :-|

Everyone else plays this piece much too fast. Gould is the only pianist that got it right.

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Re: Easy Scriabin...?
Reply #10 on: May 08, 2009, 01:19:47 AM
 I thought there were no easy SCRIABIN
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