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Offline pianowolfi

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Lake of pain
on: May 23, 2009, 05:58:59 PM
Oh well...

it's a necessary step on the way to my next project...and perhaps a necessary step in my life.

P.S no nobody needs to be concerned about my mental or other health because I named this piece like I did, I am completely okay and I know what I'm doing, just for the record  8)  :) After all it's about motifs. And I *love* polyrhythms :)

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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #1 on: May 25, 2009, 01:01:30 AM
This is beautiful Pianowolfi. I am enjoying this very much! Thank you for posting =) I wish I had deeper things to say about others' music but I think I'm a bit naive or simple when it comes to associations external to the music itself.  I love the polyrhythms. I have a weakness for polyrhythms also. Some of them I employ consciously from practice, and then allow the music to form around them, others just happen of their own accord and are probably more complex than I could consciously encourage.

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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #2 on: May 25, 2009, 05:38:55 AM
Wolfi,

I found this and downloaded before you edited your message...did you get some concerned PM's?

Ah, but it's not painful at all, and as you well know, polyrhythms feel quite good!

I'd say it doesn't "take off" as some of your others (probably a gap in my understanding), but I'm so happy you record and share these.  :)
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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #3 on: May 26, 2009, 09:49:02 AM
Hi, thanks for the cool comments :)

Yeah it's perhaps not that painful, it has actually more to do with releasing things. It's part of a path, like often, I am planning a third project which I call "Steps" and it's like a step on the way there.

Offline chopinatic

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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #4 on: May 30, 2009, 02:34:45 PM
This is wonderful, very emotional! It kinda has a trancing effect allowing room for storys to run through my head. Another great improv/comp.

im hoping to get some more up soon, been away a while!!!!!

Will check your other new ones!!

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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #5 on: June 13, 2009, 09:29:01 PM
Wolfi:

I've been fascinated with polyrhythms since childhood, beginning with Chopin -> Scriabin -> Messiaen -> Sorabji -> (countless others). I also find that improvising (and performing (at my level)) complex rhythms in a sustained and meaningful way requires considerable technique both in performance and harmony.

Your "Lake of pain" is internal, expressive, emotional and subdued. It is very nice. And remember, many great musicians and artists have produced their greatest work in conjunction with the most painful events of their lives. I have 3 improves I hope to get up here, all of which rose from very difficult periods of my life. :(

But that doesn't mean I want you to remain depressed so you can make better music! :o  :'( Good luck on the next stage in your process!

Lontano

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Offline pianowolfi

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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #6 on: June 14, 2009, 04:06:14 PM
Thank you lontano :) I can't write a lot right now since I'm sick, will listen to your's later :)

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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #7 on: July 09, 2009, 04:49:01 AM
Hi wolfi,

This is a moving piece--very well constructed and most expressive.  I like the way this piece ends too, almost like an extended coda.  You always cast a spell in your improvisations, and this one is no exception.    
Interpreting music means exploring the promise of the potential of possibilities.

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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #8 on: July 09, 2009, 07:15:54 AM
Hi Wolfi,

I listened to this not long after you posted it.  About midway through or so the mood changes.  A deep improv, and a deep echo from the soul perhaps.  This is an excellent improv. :)  
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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #9 on: July 11, 2009, 11:01:19 PM
Wolfi,
This piece is amazing!!!! it's so...well I find it very expressive....it's beautiful....I love it!!!! i have downloaded it and will be making it one of my regular listening pieces ;D

Offline pianowolfi

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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #10 on: July 12, 2009, 06:53:57 AM
Wolfi,
This piece is amazing!!!! it's so...well I find it very expressive....it's beautiful....I love it!!!! i have downloaded it and will be making it one of my regular listening pieces ;D

Hi ahbach, thanks, you´re very nice :)

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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #11 on: July 23, 2009, 08:04:59 PM
And thanks to Goldy and rachfan for their encouraging comments, which I've just read now since I've been in the mountains for a while :)

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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 09:49:07 AM
This really struck me as I was listening again, seemingly for the first time, as if it were a new discovery. I don't know what I meant in my comment above...this is beautiful and has a very distinct flow...the motifs seem bound and held together by their own gravitational pulls; it has a clear inspiration of which can be said, "Yes, now this is musical expression, a deeper picture of the soul."

I don't know what to do with words. I hear your music which you've shared, and the impulse in expressing its impact is to play you back the very recording which you yourself posted, the music which you conceived...yes, to play back to you the very recording you gave saying, "See there, hear this music!" But you already know what it is; you know what is there; you recorded it and gave it to us... What am I saying in this tangled knot of thought but that words are not adequate to express distinctly musical ideas as they live and are listened to! If all I have is words, I must be reduced to this single statement:

This music, I like.

Dave
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Re: Lake of pain
Reply #13 on: October 13, 2009, 09:01:17 PM
Hi Dave

though, your words speak to me in a very special way. For months some of your verbalizations have accompanied me and i thought about them. Now especially the expression "gravitational pulls" makes me reflect and think. And of course now  that you say you wish to play my recording back to me I listen again and I listen differently than before.

Yes I sorta know what is there, but on the other hand words like yours have a mirror-effect on me and I see things from a different view...

 :)

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