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on: June 13, 2009, 12:51:45 AM
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Re: I want to learn Evryali
Reply #1 on: June 13, 2009, 12:55:19 AM
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Re: I want to learn Evryali
Reply #2 on: June 13, 2009, 01:46:18 AM
How do you pronounce Evryali btw?  I don't speak Greek.  Is it even a Greek word?

It's the name of one of the Greek Gorgons, with Medusa being the most famous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evryali
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euryale

I am not really sure why Xenakis transliterated it as Evryali. The Modern Greek pronunciation would be something like ay-ree-AHL-ee (where ay is pronounced like the a in bake). I would guess that his transliteration would be pronounced ehv-ree-AHL-ee.

What do you think?  I heard it's quite difficult.  Maybe I'll bullshit my way through the rly tough parts; most people won't notice 8)

Sure, people won't notice, but if you aren't going to take a piece seriously for purposes of performance, don't even bother learning it. The mistakes may not be as noticeable as in the Alkan concerto finale that you massacred, but it still sacrifices musical integrity for you to bullshit a piece like that. Just don't even bother.

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Re: I want to learn Evryali
Reply #3 on: June 13, 2009, 12:30:15 PM
Maybe I'll bullshit my way through the rly tough parts; most people won't notice 8)

When the going gets tough, just get your cat to join in and jump around on the keys.

As you say, most people won't notice.

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Re: I want to learn Evryali
Reply #4 on: June 13, 2009, 10:07:55 PM
When the going gets tough, just get your cat to join in and jump around on the keys.

As you say, most people won't notice.
You appear on the evidence of this remark to dislike cats about as much as you dislike both Alkan (one of the greatest masters of the century with which we all principally identify you) and Xenakis. On your own head be it - all of it...

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Re: I want to learn Evryali
Reply #5 on: June 13, 2009, 10:18:25 PM
I do not recall saying i dislike cats or Alkan, only Xenakis.
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Re: I want to learn Evryali
Reply #6 on: June 13, 2009, 10:19:48 PM
I do not recall saying i dislike cats or Alkan, only Xenakis.
Ah, well - two out of three's not so bad a result, I suppose...

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Re: I want to learn Evryali
Reply #7 on: June 18, 2009, 11:25:26 PM
What do you think?  I heard it's quite difficult.  Maybe I'll bullshit my way through the rly tough parts; most people won't notice 8)

And I would like to play the piano like Fredrik Ullen, but it ain't gonna happen. Have you even  :o looked at the score? The latter part of the piece (a good bit of the total) is written on up to 5 staves without any obvious reason. I imagine it would take quite a while to do your own transcription in order to make sense of the chords, but you're gonna fake it so just go on and bang away if it makes you feel good. :D

If you want to work on a "better" Xenakis work, take a look at Mists, or the famous Herma. IMHO the best part of Evryali is the opening dance-like motif. I can't imagine how this opening relates to the rest of the work, but then again, I really don't care.

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