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beethoven_fan

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Ornaments in a Bach's French suite

on: June 30, 2009, 12:21:44 PM

Hi, everybody !

I'm currently working on the Menuet II from the French suite no. 1 in D minor by Bach. At bar 3, there is an ornament in the right hand. It does not look like a trill. How shall I play it ?

I use Henle 's edition, but you can see the same ornaments on this edition :

https://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/5/58/IMSLP02100-BWV0812.pdf

Those ornaments don't appear the table exposed in the preface of my edition, visible at this adress in the first reply :

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php topic,28840.msg332416.html#msg332416

Has anyone played this ? Can anybody help ? Thank you.

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quantum

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Re: Ornaments in a Bach's French suite

Reply #1 on: June 30, 2009, 09:39:05 PM

Play A-Bb-C. I'd put A on the main beat.

The name of it escapes me at the moment.

One well known example of this is Bach's Erbarme Dich from the St. Matthew Passion.

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worov

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Re: Ornaments in a Bach's French suite

Reply #2 on: July 01, 2009, 07:40:46 AM

Hi, beethoven_fan !

I have done some research on the Internet. It is called 'Schleifer' in German, slide in English. Quantum is right about the execution : you should play the A on the beat.

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