Fingering for this arpeggio?

[pold]

Hi, how do you guys play this kind of arpeggio, what fingering do you suggest for right and left hand? (for example C major):

                                                                                            --E--
                                                                        --C--                     --C--
                                                       --G--                     --G--
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                              E                     E
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                C                   C
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------G--------------G-------------------------------------------------

----E------------E-------------------------------------------------------------
 
         --C--

[pold]

That was just the beginning in the example, but imagine to play this all across the keyboard quite fast.

[scottmcc]

that is called a "broken arpeggio," and detailed fingerings for these are found in a variety of exercise books.  the basic approach is something like 1 4 2 5 (repeat as needed) or 1 3 2 4 depending on the size of the stretch needed and the size of your hands.

[artsyalchemist]

For the LH, it is usually 5-3-2-1-3-2-1..but it varies with hand size. 
For the RH one, it's 1-2-4-1-2-4-1 with 5 at the end...again, could be varied

[jgallag]

Yeah, you've got two different answers here. Your graphic is not clear. Please find an example in repertoire for us.

[pold]

Thank you for the 2 answers. the graphic is not good? why?? Just read the notes:
E4-C4-G4-E4-C5-G4-E5-C5-G5-E5-C6-G5-E6-C6-G6-E6-C7-G6-E7-C7-etc..
it's a broken arpeggio used often by Mozart and Baroque period.

[jgallag]

Apparently you didn't notice that the two answers are different, and that the second will not work. Your original post stating "right and left hand" gives us the impressing that you have two parallel arpeggios set apart at a third.

Anyways, to answer your question, for the RH 2-1-3-2-5-1-4-2-5-1-4-2-5-1 and so on, and the left hand would be 4-5-2-4-1-5-2-3-1-5-2-4-1-5. You begin by blocking the chords with the triad plus the octave, and then you break them using rotation. It is not so much the fingering that matters as long as you use the same one each time and you make active use of rotation in the forearm.

By the way, your inability to provide an example indicates to me that you want to develop a general "technique" for such patterns. It won't work. As soon as you transpose it out of the key of C, the topography of the keyboard changes and so does the fingering. The technique is the same as that of a tremolo, there is just the added lateral motion and a different fingering.

[nanabush]

Oh man I remember coming across this some years ago and I was stumped beyond belief; it was in a study in one of my books, and there was no fingering.  I began trying to do something like 1-5 1-5 1-5 1-5 1-5, and realized that that was horrible  .  What scottmcc and jgallag suggested is probably the only thing that will keep those legato. 

[pold]

Apparently you didn't notice that the two answers are different, and that the second will not work. Your original post stating "right and left hand" gives us the impressing that you have two parallel arpeggios set apart at a third.

Anyways, to answer your question, for the RH 2-1-3-2-5-1-4-2-5-1-4-2-5-1 and so on, and the left hand would be 4-5-2-4-1-5-2-3-1-5-2-4-1-5. You begin by blocking the chords with the triad plus the octave, and then you break them using rotation. It is not so much the fingering that matters as long as you use the same one each time and you make active use of rotation in the forearm.

By the way, your inability to provide an example indicates to me that you want to develop a general "technique" for such patterns. It won't work. As soon as you transpose it out of the key of C, the topography of the keyboard changes and so does the fingering. The technique is the same as that of a tremolo, there is just the added lateral motion and a different fingering.

jgallag, thanks for your reply, you read my mind, I knew the previous fingerings wouldn't work,I was hoping to get more replies like yours.