German help - Mahler

[iroveashe]

I need help from someone who knows German to translate what every mark in Mahler's Adagietto mean:


Nicht Schleppen (etwas flüßiger als zo Anfang): not dragging (somewhat more fluid than at the beginning).
Wieder äußerst langsam: Again exceedingly slowly.
etwas drängend: somewhat urging.
fließen: flowingly.
zurükhaltend: holding back.
mit Warmë: with warmth.
zögernd: hesitant, reluctant, tentative, lingering
mit innigster Empfindung: with innermost feeling.
mit Empfindung: With emotion.
Sehr langsam: Very slowly.
Seelenvoll: Soulfully.
Nocht Langsamer: More slowly.
lang: Slow.

Thanks in advance.

[imbetter]

I need help from someone who knows German to translate what every mark in Mahler's Adagietto mean:

Sehr langsam
Seelenvoll
Nicht Schleppen (etwas flüßiger als zo Anfang)
Wieder äußerst langsam
mit Empfindung
etwas drängend
fließen
zurükhaltend
mit Warmë
zögernd
mit innigster Empfindung
Nocht Langsamer
lang

Thanks in advance.

sehr langsam-very slowly

nocht langsamer-more slowly

lang-slow

that's all I can help with sorry

[Bob]

Nicht is not.
Etwas is somewhat.
Mit with with.


These might be helpful.

German, music dictionaries
https://www.cadenza.org/glossary/
https://www.dict.caseymongoven.com/index.htm

German, general dictionary, with audio pronunciations
https://www.dict.cc

[iroveashe]

Thanks, I'll fill in the words as I know what they mean.

[Bob]

Another idea that might help, although it's a lot of extra work.  Find the term in either that piece or another piece of music and get a recording of it.  Hear how those performers interpret the term. 

I remember looking up a lot of terms once and then realizing I knew the definition but didn't really understand what it meant in music. 

And I remember some terms in Mahler were more of a feeling, not quite something to measure with tempo or dynamics. 


Wieder is again I remember.

[iroveashe]

I know what you mean, I can also know the meaning of some words but not together in a phrase and then in musical context.

I'm not sure how to find those terms in other pieces of music though, I can barely manage on dictionaries and Google with some phrases.

[Bob]

More of the same music.  Esp more of that composer's same music.  Then you absorb the style too and find how people interpret that composer's markings.  But that is a bit more work.  It's probably easier to find recordings of just the pieces you're working on, but then there's the issue of getting someone else's interpretation, if that matters.

The nice thing you'll probably see them again sometime.  Once you know them, you know them. 

And I vaguely thinking of a book or website that has examples.  I just can't remember it now.  And that doesn't help much.  Maybe it was a theory book or music appreciation book.

[Bob]

There's the New Harvard Dictionary.   I'm thinking there are German-English music dictionaries too.  Although that still doesn't solve the problem of having aural examples.

I wonder if there's a book or website out there like that.  Term in both languages and audio clip examples. 

[iroveashe]

I'm quite addicted to the symphonies and the Kindertotenlieder, so I'll try to read the scores while I listen and see if I can make some meaning of that. They don't seem to be frequently used terms (to me at least) so I'm not sure they'll be in music dictionaries.

[Bob]

etwas drängend   somewhat forward-pressing

Nicht Schleppen (etwas flüßiger als zo Anfang)
not dragging (somewhat fluid like the beginning)  [Bob:  I don't know what zo is or if that's a typo.]

Wieder äußerst langsam
Again exceedingly slowly 
Bob:  Must be for a repeat.

fließen
flowly

zurückhaltend   spelling?
reserved, restrained

mit Warmë
with warmth

zögernd
hesitant, reluctant, tentative, lingering

mit innigster Empfindung
with dear sentiment/feeling



These aren't so bad.  I used the dict.cc site.

Some of these are the kind of directions you have to have some music for.  And they're not as obvious ones.  I think they're more subtle.  And I like them for that.  More like a change of character instead of a signpost for tempo.

[iroveashe]

Awesome, thanks! It was zu instead of zo, sorry, and zurückhaltend is spelled like that in the score.

[scottmcc]

mit innigster Empfindung is a term employed by Beethoven on a number of the later sonatas.  "with innermost feeling" is a slightly more accurate translation I think. 

a lot of german words are built from smaller words.  zurueck means back, and halten means hold or stop, therefore zurueckhaltend means holding back, or restrained.

etwas translates literally as "somewhat" but the connotation is "quite," ie not as much as "very," but certainly more than "a bit."

been a while since I've spoken any german, I'm a bit rusty!

[Bob]

Nicht Schleppen (etwas flüßiger als zo Anfang)
not dragging (somewhat more fluid[fluider] than at the beginning)