Minimalism!

[pies]

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[retrouvailles]

Why do you always try to attract attention by posting copyrighted things like this, expecting a lot of responses? I think people are sick of this charade.

[lontano]

Only rule: No Glass.

https://www.megaupload.com/?d=YXK1L016
or
https://rapidshare.com/files/281982725/1-01_stay_on_it__1973_.m4a


Go!  Your turn.  Discuss and/or post music.

I hope you realize what a can of whoop-ass you're inviting with this topic. I could do massive damage to the server in 24 hours. Just the fact you've put your 1st offering on alternate file servers indicates that while being redundantly redundant, most minimalist works are likewise longer than long.

I will offer something slightly off-topic, but not entirely so. It is part of an old Folkways recording by John Cage and David Tudor called "Indeterminacy". It's not minimalism in any true form, but it is fascinating if you simply listen to Cage tell his stories while Tudor provides improvised miniature fantasies in the background. For what it's worth.

L.

[communist]

Giya Kanchelli anyone?

[retrouvailles]

Giya Kanchelli anyone?

He isn't really a minimalist composer. Various people have tried to lump him in with the so-called "holy minimalists" like Arvo Pärt, but he is really something else. I don't entirely care for his music. His music just seems like a glorified version of those various "easy listening" disks. Nothing really special to me.

[communist]

He isn't really a minimalist composer. Various people have tried to lump him in with the so-called "holy minimalists" like Arvo Pärt, but he is really something else. I don't entirely care for his music. His music just seems like a glorified version of those various "easy listening" disks. Nothing really special to me.

I have heard one minor piece by him, is was okay. I don't like Part at all.

[pies]

Why do you always try to attract attention by posting copyrighted things like this, expecting a lot of responses? I think people are sick of this charade.

[retrouvailles]

I don't like Part at all.

Pärt is a composer much like Penderecki, in that he composed some of his most interesting works before the mid 70's, when he changed his style drastically. Check out works such as his Credo for piano, chorus, and orchestra or his first two symphonies. I can't completely hate his later works, though. Some of his works make good music to just chill out to (not always much more than that, though).

[weissenberg2]

Anyone familiar with Johnson Hour for Piano?

[pianist7]

I only know one post-minimalistic work: and that's the Chairman Dances. I heard it live--great piece.

[indutrial]

Having tried many times, I just don't hear anything worth a tin sh!t amongst the increasingly large body of minimalist works. Beyond being an interesting test of the performer's endurance, it often just sounds like new age music or bad progressive rock. Glass is by far the worst. I'll grant that he's found a very distinctive sound, but the limits of that sound make his creativity hit the ceiling very quickly. Reich is far better at understanding the instruments he writes for, but his music still sounds like lifeless academic drek composed by post-modern robots to usher in a bleak future. As well, I'm thoroughly skeptical towards 'holy minimalist' composers like Part, Gorecki, and Vasks, who earlier in their lives showed far greater creative potential than they've realized over the years, commercial success aside. As with Reich, their recent works just sound like rehashed Bartok ideas that have been stripped of their context and served up with greasy dollops of 'poignant emotion', to use two words that 95% of their positive reviewers like to spew recklessly. As a side note, I absolutely despise the way that these works are thrust upon people as the outer appearance of current East European music. Since I'm not a yoga instructor, a documentary maker, or an R2-D2, I see little value in these works.

[communist]

Having tried many times, I just don't hear anything worth a tin sh!t amongst the increasingly large body of minimalist works. Beyond being an interesting test of the performer's endurance, it often just sounds like new age music or bad progressive rock. Glass is by far the worst. I'll grant that he's found a very distinctive sound, but the limits of that sound make his creativity hit the ceiling very quickly. Reich is far better at understanding the instruments he writes for, but his music still sounds like lifeless academic drek composed by post-modern robots to usher in a bleak future. As well, I'm thoroughly skeptical towards 'holy minimalist' composers like Part, Gorecki, and Vasks, who earlier in their lives showed far greater creative potential than they've realized over the years, commercial success aside. As with Reich, their recent works just sound like rehashed Bartok ideas that have been stripped of their context and served up with greasy dollops of 'poignant emotion', to use two words that 95% of their positive reviewers like to spew recklessly. As a side note, I absolutely despise the way that these works are thrust upon people as the outer appearance of current East European music. Since I'm not a yoga instructor, a documentary maker, or an R2-D2, I see little value in these works.

Well said.

[thalbergmad]

a documentary maker

I think you would be rather good at that, but i can imagine some battles with the censors

Thal

[indutrial]

Here's a piece by Pärt from more youthful days:

[kay3087]

Here's a piece by Pärt from more youthful days:

How is this "minimalism"? There are thousands of notes!

[indutrial]

I was following up my last post by showing a piece by Part that is far different from the boring spiritual music he's been writing for the past few decades. I actually like the early works of his that saw him building off of influences like Bartok, Prokofiev, etc... Works like 'Spiegel im Spiegel' and 'Fur Alina', in comparison, sound world-weary and emotionally cheap. The swooning reactions people usually have to pieces like those are just as tiresome.

[gep]

If you like "minimal-piano" or "minimal" pinao music, you might want to look at the Dutch pianist/composer Jeroen van Veen's website
www.jeroenvanveen.com
You can download things there too in the "download" section. There are his complete 24 Minimal Preludes which, while no Minimal fan, I can tolerate now and then. There's also the Dutch composer Simeon ten Holt, who you might like too. Also several downloads on www.jeroenvanveen.com, but also on Ten Holt's own website
www.simeontenholt.com.

Glass on piano isn't minimalism, it's nihilism, if even that.

all best,
gep

[lmiller2501]

Unfortunately,https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=16094?? ironic... you didn't get the joke?  Too 'needy reader'?  Perhaps?