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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #200 on: February 13, 2010, 09:57:28 PM »

If you would have listened to anything I a) would have observed it, since there were no hits in any piece if ever you have mentioned any certain one which was b) at least very seldom if it ever occured at all in this thread.

This is completely meaningless, could you have another go please. Try thinking a bit more before you type.

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #201 on: February 13, 2010, 09:59:52 PM »

To proof just all that unpleasant assumptions you did in this thread. If youself even cant remember anything provable, why did you than just abreact yourself in this thread so corybantic?

What does this mean??

It is meaningless.

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #202 on: February 13, 2010, 10:01:39 PM »
Already done.

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #203 on: February 13, 2010, 10:22:48 PM »
To take all your little comments in one answer.
1) Just read your own postings in this thread and you would hardly find anything that has to do with any concrete piece on my site. in short you judge without listening.
2) You pull out one silly assumption after the other while you didn't understood at all until now what you are talking about. Must I remeber the endless rubbish you talk about any alledged "product" I would promote. Man you don't know what you are talking about and you even dont know why.
3) Of course I will report every further assumption or respectlessnes since it apeared that you lost totally out of mind how to behave. And if it would be necessary to remind you i just have to report it to the moderators, for not let people like you destroy this place for public discussion about pianomusic.
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #204 on: February 13, 2010, 10:34:47 PM »
1) Just read your own postings in this thread and you would hardly find anything that has to do with any concrete piece on my site. in short you judge without listening.

I do not judge without listening. I listened to I think about 3 pieces and that was more than enough for me.

I thought they sounded plastic and I am still of the same opinion. I am also not the only person to describe your work in a similar fashion.

If you do not think 3 pieces were enough, please let me know how many you think sufficient, but please let them be short ones.

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #205 on: February 13, 2010, 10:41:03 PM »
2) You pull out one silly assumption after the other while you didn't understood at all until now what you are talking about. Must I remeber the endless rubbish you talk about any alledged "product" I would promote. Man you don't know what you are talking about and you even dont know why.

Please try again.

Do i take it I did not understood what i am talking about, then i did know for a short period of time, and then went back to not knowing what i am talking about??????

Please clarify.

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #206 on: February 13, 2010, 10:47:05 PM »
You see now fail has no arguments at all and goes off into more random stupidity. I would like for him to show me one instance where I said my sorabji midi was recorded BY REAL FINGERS ON REAL KEYS, like he so pathetically announces with all his midis.
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #207 on: February 13, 2010, 10:48:49 PM »
3) Of course I will report every further assumption or respectlessnes since it apeared that you lost totally out of mind how to behave. And if it would be necessary to remind you i just have to report it to the moderators, for not let people like you destroy this place for public discussion about pianomusic.

Under the circumstances, I think i have behaved with restraint and so have others. I had rather hoped that this thread was dead as it was getting nowhere and had very little to do with actual pianomusic, only attempts to create it.

Please report the above to the moderators if you think it is not suitably respectful.

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #208 on: February 13, 2010, 10:51:39 PM »
Hey wow 3 pieces out of hunderts of recordings from over seven Years what an impressive foundation for your still now never concrete generalized judgement!
Three pieces, that's what I not only listened but also in depth commented just the last half an hour in the audition room here. But honestly I never read even a single sillable about any concrete piece you criticiesd here and I have my doubts, that youself even know which three recordings of my site you are talking about.

I am even sure that you allready forgot, your pretention you just want to see me posting in other threads sharing there with others my musical knowledge, so go and read and than try if you can keep up with that to criticise likewise at least one of my pieces otherwise let me just call you a mean unimportant pretender since you cant even hold what you self expected from others.

And if you want to know how many pieces are enough? the answer is quite easy if you want to judge a piece you should listen and you should be able to relate to the concrete piece you listened and judge. If you want to judge hunderts of pieces, OK than be prepared to listen hunderts of pieces otherwise be more modest in your judgement.  If you like I can give you an example how to do with any Beethovensonata or stuff like this you contribute here.
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #209 on: February 13, 2010, 10:55:59 PM »
And if you want to know how many pieces are enough? the answer is quite easy if you want to judge a piece you should listen and you should be able to relate to the concrete piece you listened and judge.

Do i take it then that there are pieces that are better than others?? If so, please advise.

Do i also take it that I have to listen to every single piece before i judge your work.

Please clarify.

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #210 on: February 13, 2010, 10:56:21 PM »
But honestly I never read even a single sillable about any concrete piece you criticiesd here and I have my doubts, that youself even know which three recordings of my site you are talking about.
Hey you see he admits here that he never reads a single syllable about any pieces that we critique. LOL!

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #211 on: February 13, 2010, 11:00:13 PM »
Hey you see he admits here that he never reads a single syllable about any pieces that we critique. LOL!
Poor guy, Thalberg_mad never critizised any interpretation of any concrete piece. Or show me where he did, if you can. If not better try to make more music out of your automatic midifiles ;)
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #212 on: February 13, 2010, 11:01:23 PM »
I am even sure that you allready forgot, your pretention you just want to see me posting in other threads sharing there with others my musical knowledge, so go and read and than try if you can keep up with that to criticise likewise at least one of my pieces otherwise let me just call you a mean unimportant pretender since you cant even hold what you self expected from others.

I have reported "mean unimportant pretender" to the moderators as I feel it is not warranted ;D

Did not understand the rest of your post.

I am sure you have the right words but in the wrong order.

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #213 on: February 13, 2010, 11:05:16 PM »
Hey you see he admits here that he never reads a single syllable about any pieces that we critique. LOL!

He seems to be confused as I used the word plastic instead of concrete. ;D

I did listen to a piece that was supposedly by Haydn, but i thought it was played on a Rolf Harris Stylaphone instead of a piano.

Being Australian, I take it you have one of those and understand my meaning ;D

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #214 on: February 13, 2010, 11:06:46 PM »
Do i take it then that there are pieces that are better than others?? If so, please advise.

Do i also take it that I have to listen to every single piece before i judge your work.

Please clarify.

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Do I take you right that you think it normal to judge music without ever listening to.
Of course you should listen to the piece you want to judge or do you feel right judge, if someone find one Problem on one piece and states from that moment on every piece this guy play over his whole life will have everytime this problem because it appeared to me in one piece.
Yes of course you can criticise every recording, but only if you listened, not by superficial generalisations, of which you  even yourself dont know which recording was the reason for.
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #215 on: February 13, 2010, 11:07:27 PM »
If not better try to make more music out of your automatic midifiles ;)

Well done, this is a sign that you are human.

I thought your posts were produced by the same programme as your "realisations".

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #216 on: February 13, 2010, 11:09:35 PM »
OK Thalberg_mad preferes to play the clown again when it comes to become serious. Did you expect anyone would not count such posting as spamming?
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #217 on: February 13, 2010, 11:11:06 PM »
He seems to be confused as I used the word plastic instead of concrete. ;D

I did listen to a piece that was supposedly by Haydn, but i thought it was played on a Rolf Harris Stylaphone instead of a piano.

Being Australian, I take it you have one of those and understand my meaning ;D

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Rolf Harris is a genius such a great painter, musician, poet, writer etc etc. And now that you mention it, fails recordings do remind me of a Stylophone :)
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«Reply #218 on: February 13, 2010, 11:11:49 PM »
OK Thalberg_mad preferes to play the clown again when it comes to become serious. Did you expect anyone would not count such posting as spamming?
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And what you spammed in my thread on the Sorabji OC midi is not?
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #219 on: February 13, 2010, 11:12:12 PM »
Do I take you right that you think it normal to judge music without ever listening to.

As i have stated before, I have. Hopefully this is now clear.

Please let me know how many i need to listen to before i can judge your work as a whole. If there are some that are better than others, please let me know which in your opinion are the best to listen to.

Please be aware that my hobby involves huge amounts of listening to real music and reading scores. I only have a limited amount of time to listen to midis.

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #220 on: February 13, 2010, 11:13:56 PM »
Rolf Harris is a genius such a great painter, musician, poet, writer etc etc. And now that you mention it, fails recordings do remind me of a Stylophone :)


I think we have found what fail was using ;D

Well done old chap.

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«Reply #221 on: February 13, 2010, 11:17:31 PM »
OK Thalberg_mad preferes to play the clown again when it comes to become serious.

I am finding it difficult to be serious in this thread.

You need to lighten up a bit as a sense of humour will make your journey through pianostreet a lot more enjoyable.

And please remember that the clown you refer to spent some time in assisting you with your research and will continue to do so. I did not have to do this.

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #222 on: February 13, 2010, 11:21:47 PM »
As i have stated before, I have. Hopefully this is now clear.

Please let me know how many i need to listen to before i can judge your work as a whole. If there are some that are better than others, please let me know which in your opinion are the best to listen to.

Please be aware that my hobby involves huge amounts of listening to real music and reading scores. I only have a limited amount of time to listen to midis.

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This seems to me a bit megalomanic to think you might judge in one sentence what you self would hardly have practised in the seven Years I have recorded it.

So why dont you just chose a composition you like what you perhaps have played yourself and criticise and judge that, without pretending you might even dare to judge the whole thing.

I am sure, if you listen with care and criticise with care I have no problems what ever you really listened and think about. But just reading others being upset because it was a sampled piano not a wodden piano has really nothing to do with music at all and is just pure ideology. And that is not that much more funny as if you try again to play the stupid clown.
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #223 on: February 13, 2010, 11:24:47 PM »
I am finding it difficult to be serious in this thread.

You need to lighten up a bit as a sense of humour will make your journey through pianostreet a lot more enjoyable.

And please remember that the clown you refer to spent some time in assisting you with your research and will continue to do so. I did not have to do this.

Thal
I like humor quite well but what ever you link with ignorance, even if it is humor, is nothing I really want to laugh about. So become serious, to make your punchline more than superficial.
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #224 on: February 13, 2010, 11:27:54 PM »
I am finding it difficult to be serious in this thread.

You need to lighten up a bit as a sense of humour will make your journey through pianostreet a lot more enjoyable.

And please remember that the clown you refer to spent some time in assisting you with your research and will continue to do so. I did not have to do this.

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You mean you haven't forgotten to ask for Robert Kahn?
How that, one moment before you behave as if you like to kill my with spam another you try to connect with common interests, while you never said anything about how you like for instance his pianoquintett on my site?
Guy you demand quite a bit of tolerance.
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #225 on: February 13, 2010, 11:36:24 PM »
And what you spammed in my thread on the Sorabji OC midi is not?
look at the screenshots of your midifile in Cubase and you must admit that there is definitly nothing played at all. this is simply a well founded matter of fact and has nothing to do with spamming.
sorry, but it was you who dared to pretend things what are so easily disproved by the reality.
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #226 on: February 13, 2010, 11:42:54 PM »
look at the screenshots of your midifile in Cubase and you must admit that there is definitly nothing played at all. this is simply a well founded matter of fact and has nothing to do with spamming.
sorry, but it was you who dared to pretend things what are so easily disproved by the reality.
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But your post is http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=32862.msg416787#msg416787

and you didn't talk about anything constructive. Maybe you forgot? It seems to me you do not mind spamming yourself.
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #227 on: February 14, 2010, 12:03:02 AM »
But your post is http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=32862.msg416787#msg416787

and you didn't talk about anything constructive. Maybe you forgot? It seems to me you do not mind spamming yourself.
I have already answered one missunderstanding I admit, since I was not awareof the meaning of "bar sorabji" as you used it. But that does not hinder to commend the work which was done, to scan the sorabji score and correct it to a midisequence and to indicate what has to be done naxt, to get a musical meaningful midi out of it. What else more constructie did you expect?
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #228 on: February 14, 2010, 12:29:27 AM »
Admitting that sorabji was not that good to proof if you are telling the truth when stating, your impressing ability to make midifiles
The difference between my midi and yours is that MY midi are recorded by REAL hands on REAL keys (bar the Sorabji), where your are Real Hands on REAL computer keyboard and keys  
Just have a look at your Improvisation 2 which shows besides extraordinary loud chords runs of just the same monotonous unchanged default velocity and mathemathical correctness as your fully synthetic sorabji", you guy definitly must have robothands if that should be played with real fingers! ;)
Here is the screenshot:

 

Let us confront this with my alledgedly "mechanical" played Prelude from WTC II in C-Major:


Nowhere just static keyvelocities or just mathemathically correct runs, but also no exaggerated dynamics but every note slightly changing dynamics. It should everybody judge himself which recording was made by musicaly used fingers and which not.
So before pretending anything about my alledgdly robotic midifiles, just look at your own pretended "recorded by REAL hands on REAL keys" which was obviously not the case for the Improvisation 2 midifile we can see here.
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #229 on: February 14, 2010, 12:45:38 AM »
I dont't really udnerstand what this is.  What is sampling and how is it used to make these recordings.  Do you mean to say you put together all these recordings one note at a time?!

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«Reply #230 on: February 14, 2010, 01:23:23 AM »
The improv 2 is a mix of two takes at the same time. Some notes where added later, recorded over the recording (theres no rules for improv i can do whatever I like, I am not doing a composition of something famous). What about improv 1? How is that not real hands on real keys?

It actually does not matter what I do because I am not proclaiming that my Midi's are anything special, however you claim that your recordings are better than professional ones.
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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #231 on: February 14, 2010, 02:35:46 AM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again...

CAN WE LOCK THIS GOD-FORSAKEN THREAD?!?

I mean as much fun as I have criticising Fahl5 and his worthless attempts to make any sense... he is continually spamming the sh*t out everyone and I for one feel that the only way to stop this from happening would be either to lock this thread or stop him from posting... because this is just getting OUT OF HAND!!!

He seems to get his jollies (or some sort of satisfaction from all this)... how about we put an end to it!!! Who's with me???

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Re: New website with complete Bach WTP II, Haydn Sonatas, Liszt Studies etc.
«Reply #232 on: February 14, 2010, 07:53:54 AM »
the only way to shut him up is for everyone to ignore his last post.  it's difficult, i know, because he just can't accept the fact that his "music" is not admired by everyone and he's going to insist insist insist.  but that's the only way to stop this thread.

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«Reply #233 on: February 14, 2010, 10:06:36 AM »
Excellent idea birba. I will make no further posts on here.

This man is an attention seeking troll as is not worth any more effort.

Goodbye thread.

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