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Offline ragnarok297

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Having trouble reading this sheet music... help?
on: January 24, 2010, 05:13:12 AM
Hey guys, I'm starting to learn this new piano arrangement, caramelldansen arranged by phillip walker. Normally, I can read sheet music pretty well, but theres a couple things on there that I've never seen before.

Heres an image of one of the parts I don't get:

https://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9297/musicimage.jpg
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https://yfrog.com/1fmusicimagej

and heres the link to the sheet music if it would help looking at the whole thing:
https://josh.agarrado.net/music/anime/index.php?searchterms=caramelldansen&srctype=

So, as you can see, the first bit has some sort of "chord" composed of a whole "d" note on the left side and an eight "d" note (the same note, not an octave higher or something) on the right side. I've got no idea what this means, how are you supposed to play the same exact key while its already pressed down?

Well thx for reading, hopefully you can explain this to me...

Offline nanabush

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Re: Having trouble reading this sheet music... help?
Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 06:55:38 AM
Oh k, so I'm guessing that your confused with either the whole note D beside an eight note D, and possibly the sixteenth - eighth - sixteenth pattern.

Hold the pedal when you play that first D; I think the desired effect is to have the D sound through the measure, even though it gets repeated.  So play it as the eighth (written right beside the whole note), but the pedal will sustain it for however long you want (4 beats in this case).

If it's the timing part on the second half of this measure, then I'll try to explain it using "N" for the notes, and writing the timing under.

N        N        N                N    N        N    N
1 and  2  and  3 and 4 and  1   and 2  and  3   and 4 and

so you'll be saying "one and two and three and four and" STEADILY: and the notes should fall on:

ONE and TWO and THREE and four and ONE AND two AND THREE and four and.

Does that make sense?  Hopefully it was the whole note that was mixing you up, and not the timing.  It's really hard to explain syncopation without any sound, but that was my attempt  :)




EDIT: I realized that you specified which part was confusing, so ignore the second half.  If you understand the syncopation then great!  Whole note D next to the eighth; just remember that you want the effect of a sustained D for a whole note with pedal, but the eighth RIGHT next to it means that the next note will come and eighth beat after you play the D.  If the eighth weren't there, then it would appear that you'd hold the D four beats before playing the next note, and if the whole note weren't there, then you would not know that you need a D to be sustained over the measure.

If you need me to clarify just say - It's 2AM here and I'm starting to doze off.

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Offline nystul

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Re: Having trouble reading this sheet music... help?
Reply #2 on: January 24, 2010, 10:53:26 AM
Sometimes things get written as if it were a score of separate parts.  Imagine 2 men were singing this.  One man sings a D the whole measure.  The other man sings the rhythmic part that starts with the eighth note D and then goes up.  That is basically the musical idea that is represented.  Obviously you can't play it literally in that way on a piano.

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Re: Having trouble reading this sheet music... help?
Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010, 08:45:31 AM
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...how are you supposed to play the same exact key while its already pressed down?

You release the D and simply depress the key again and hold it down.
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