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Offline wammpa

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Stubborn teacher
on: February 09, 2010, 12:57:23 AM
I am currently learning the Norse Song by Robert Schumann, and cannot get over how bad the rolled chord in the last line sounds. My stubborn teacher is refusing to let me change the notes of the chord a bit to make it fit in with the rest of the song, any ideas on compromises?

Offline m19834

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Re: Stubborn teacher
Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 01:46:20 AM
Seems more like stubborn student to me !  However, if you simply *must* "rewrite" it in order for it to sound correct in your mind, I would recommend that you build your own entire musical kingdom where you are the center of it, all of the music in creation came into creation by you, all of the musicians there are at your mercy, and every teacher there only teaches in the way you see fit.  If that seems a little far-fetched or too difficult for you, then as an alternative, I would recommend just doing what's written and as your teacher is asking ... unless it's a typo  :D.

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Re: Stubborn teacher
Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 01:58:39 AM
Seems more like stubborn student to me !  However, if you simply *must* "rewrite" it in order for it to sound correct in your mind, I would recommend that you build your own entire musical kingdom where you are the center of it, all of the music in creation came into creation by you, all of the musicians there are at your mercy, and every teacher there only teaches in the way you see fit.  If that seems a little far-fetched or too difficult for you, then as an alternative, I would recommend just doing what's written and as your teacher is asking ... unless it's a typo  :D.

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What's wrong with it?  Can you post a pic of the end section you mean?
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Offline 3htohn

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Re: Stubborn teacher
Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 08:27:05 AM
No, definitely not, you cannot change the notes of the chord a bit to make it fit in with the rest of the song. That has to be the most extraordinary thing I've ever heard a pianist ask. It may be permissible to add a octave note at the very end of a piece and only if it's the last chord and if one thinks it will fit the moment (better) at the time, but to change the notes of the piece... I am completely dumbfounded.

Unless there is a typo somewhere in the chord (which you could check with other published editions including recordings), Schumann wrote this piece how he wanted the chords to sound. Maybe you don't really know the piece at all. It's one thing to play a piece, quite another to hear it.

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Offline dss62467

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Re: Stubborn teacher
Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010, 03:27:03 PM
I think I'd be on your teacher's side for this one.   The masters aren't masters for no reason.  Sometimes when I hit a chord that rubs me the wrong way.... my teacher just says "don't worry about it, it only lasts a second".   I would never presume to think I could write something better than the composer.   HOWEVER, if it really irritates you.... play it the way it's written when you're at the lesson and play it the way you want to at home.   

On the other hand, I have seen my teacher change things that he doesn't like.  But he doesn't do it on the masters' pieces.
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Offline peterjmathis

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Re: Stubborn teacher
Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 02:06:26 AM
Maybe you can do that when you play for yourself, but you need to be able to play pieces the way they are as well. You won't necessarily like every piece you come across.

If too many songs bother you, you could always take up composing yourself  :)
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