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Offline simonjp90

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Centenary Recital
on: February 13, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
I've been asked to do a 50 minute concert including works by Chopin, Schumann & Barber (For obvious reasons) (hopefully)

Any suggestions to how I could fit them in & which pieces would go well with them if needed?

not too much schumann please...

thanks!

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Re: Centenary Recital
Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 03:20:46 PM
I would avoid doing an all-Barber 2nd half (it could get a little heavy), so I think in the 2nd half you should do Schumann Papillions or Waldszenen and the Barber sonata. In the first half I think you should begin with one of the sonatas, and after that maybe some smaller pieces and a larger work
(like a scherzo).
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Re: Centenary Recital
Reply #2 on: February 13, 2010, 03:45:39 PM
its just 50 minutes so no interval

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Re: Centenary Recital
Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 05:30:56 PM
Barber Excursioin
Schumann Papillions
Chopin sonata no.3
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Re: Centenary Recital
Reply #4 on: February 13, 2010, 05:36:38 PM
nice

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Re: Centenary Recital
Reply #5 on: February 13, 2010, 05:47:14 PM
Schumann Papillions

just had a listen to this, its pretty sh*t... are there any good schumann pieces? im struggling to find some. the best ive come up with are

variations on a theme of robert schumann - preferably by a different composer

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Re: Centenary Recital
Reply #6 on: February 13, 2010, 09:48:30 PM
What is wrong with Papillions?

Anyway, Brahms had a very good set of variations on a theme by Schumann.
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Re: Centenary Recital
Reply #7 on: February 13, 2010, 10:05:21 PM
Now I am not the biggest Schumann fan, but I also happen to agree that Papillons is not one of his better works. I would suggest the Symphonic Etudes or Carnaval as better alternatives.

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Re: Centenary Recital
Reply #8 on: February 13, 2010, 10:50:59 PM
What is wrong with Papillions?

Anyway, Brahms had a very good set of variations on a theme by Schumann.

i just find it quite boring and not really good music.

love the brahms though!

I was thinking


Chopin - 4th ballade
C. Schumann - Variations on a theme of R Schumann
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Barber - sonata

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Re: Centenary Recital
Reply #9 on: February 14, 2010, 12:19:17 PM
Pretty cool, but maybe instead of the 4th ballade you could do something that constrasts a little more with the Brahms & Barber. Perhaps the 4th scherzo or the introduction & rondo.
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Re: Centenary Recital
Reply #10 on: February 14, 2010, 11:01:17 PM
Anyway, Brahms had a very good set of variations on a theme by Schumann.

That might be asking a bit much.  I doubt he could learn more than half of the piece. ::) [EDIT: hah.  I forgot about the Op. 9; that would have been a supremely witty remark had you accidentally tacked Op. 23 on there.  Either way, the Brahms Op. 9 Variations are utter garbage, and you defile humanity by even mentioning them as anything other than such]


Uh, no.  Schumann didn't really write anything worth listening to.  Fantasiestucke Op. 12 is comparatively decent, the Op. 13 is alright although it's a huge work, so if you don't like Schumann I can't see you wanting to dedicate that amount of time to it.  Just suck it up and play the Toccata Op. 7; it's bearable just because it's so flashy, and it's only 6 minutes long or so.  If you just HAVE to play a major work, I'd say the Op. 12 is your best choice, or the Waldszenen, since it's pretty easy.  The ABEGG Variations are tolerable just because they're so... un-Schumann-like.  Another possibility for you if you dislike Schumann.  The ABEGG Variations are a bit... underwhelming, however.  So, I'd suggest:


Chopin Ballade No. 1 Op. 23
Chopin Barcarolle Op. 60
Chopin Two selected Etudes
Barber: Sonata Op. 26 (You're aware of how difficult this piece is, right?)
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7 or ABEGG Variations Op. 1

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Schumann: Toccata Op. 7 or ABEGG Variations Op. 1
Barber Nocturne
Chopin Preludes Op. 28 or Sonata No. 2 or Sonata No. 3

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Chopin Fantasy Op. 49 or Scherzo No. 4
Barber Sonata Op. 26
Schumann Fantasiestucke Op. 12
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Re: Centenary Recital
Reply #11 on: February 15, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
I agree that op.9 is immature Brahms, but what is so bad about that if I do not say it is utter garbage then "defile humanity"?

Barber: Sonata Op. 26 (You're aware of how difficult this piece is, right?)


Yes I am aware of how difficult this piece is (Were you asking me?)

I like your 2nd program BTW
"The stock markets go up and down, Bach only goes up"

-Vladimir Feltsman
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