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wfrith
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Repetoire suggestions. And hi, I'm new.
on: February 17, 2010, 05:48:36 AM
Hey. I'm Will.
I'm new to the forums, semi-new to piano.
Lemme explain:
I've been playing about 3 years. I can play pieces such as Libestraume No. 3 (Liszt), Polichinelle (Rachmaninoff), Malaguena (Lecuona), Autumn Leaves (Roger Williams), Prelude in C# Minor Op. 3/2 (Rach), and I'm learning Humoreske (Rach), Rhapsodie in G Minor (Brahms), Etude Op. 10/12 "Revolutionary (Chopin) and Prelude in G Minor, Op 23/ (Rach) to name a few.
I can play more technically difficult pieces, but I have a harder time working out the essentials, like dynamics, tempo markings, tonal quality and especially pedaling. I have the newbie habit of using the sustain pedal all the time, but I'm fortunately working out of that one
I would love if anyone had any suggestions for new pieces that I could play that would be in the early advanced area. I don't get to practice as much as I want since I don't live with a piano, so things on the same level as Polichinelle or Libestraume would be the best. But any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. And sorry if I'm rambling.
EDIT
: I can play Ernesto Lecuona's Andalucia Suite if that gives any help. I just need some new pieces because I'm tired of "Frühlingsrauschen" (A.K.A. "Rustle of Spring" and Libestraume No 3). I just need some challenging music.
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nanabush
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Re: Repetoire suggestions. And hi, I'm new.
Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 06:22:36 AM
Rachmaninoff Op 23 #4 is a gorgeous piece. A slower prelude, pretty advanced, but not nearly as difficult as some of his other preludes.
Rachmaninoff Op 33 #8 (number changes so I really don't know to be honest), but it's his only G minor Etude Tableau and it's from his first set. It's in the same level as the Liszt and Rachmaninoff you said you played based on the RCM system in Canada.
Chopin Op 27 #1 Nocturne in C# minor.
Chopin Waltz in E minor Op Posth.
Debussy Doctor Gradus ad Parnassum, or Passepied from Suite Bergamasque.
Bach Sinfonias (they're all good!)
Copland "The Cat and the Mouse"
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Interested in discussing:
-Prokofiev Toccata
-Scriabin Sonata 2
wfrith
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Re: Repetoire suggestions. And hi, I'm new.
Reply #2 on: February 17, 2010, 06:34:10 AM
Ahh thank you so much!
And I'm glad that I know most of those are on IMSLP?
Anyone else, please feel free to add more if you please.
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wfrith
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Re: Repetoire suggestions. And hi, I'm new.
Reply #3 on: February 17, 2010, 06:53:02 AM
I hate to double post, but I do want to add something:
I've only taken 6 months of formal lessons. The rest of my learning has been on my own.
So I have a difficult time playing sixteenth notes in one hand and eighth tuplets in the other (or some other combination of rhythmically-uneven notes).
If you have any intermediate difficulty pieces working with those principles, I would love it. But I stress intermediate. More advanced pieces with different rhythms in each hand are a stretch for me. I just need more practice with them.
I can play Chopin's Nocturne in C Minor until the "Doppio Moviento" (i.e., when there are tuplets in the left hand and sixteenths in the right). I just have to work more on the uneven notes.
If anyone has any suggestions on working through the irregular hand movements, I'd be happy to hear them.
Ok, I'll stop rambling. The absinthe has taken hold.
Edit: Passapied is perfect for the learning the tuplets. Pieces like that are amazing.
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nanabush
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Re: Repetoire suggestions. And hi, I'm new.
Reply #4 on: February 17, 2010, 07:28:44 AM
Tapping fingers on desks helps with rhythm. It drove my friends crazy in high school, but it is a good way to work rhythm, and a bit different than sitting in front of a score going berserk trying to make it fit.
With your right hand, tap fingers 1 through 4 on your desk (these will be sixteenths), and tap your left hand middle finger with finger 1 of the right hand, then right after finger 2, then right before finger 4.
I'm not joking, this is how I became able to do these. When I do this (usually at my computer or on my lap on my way to school) I'll try to tap one hand louder than the other so I can hear it's respective beat, then try switching to tap the other hand louder.
Together, you should have your hands playing ( ONE and a TWO AND a THREE and A FOUR and a); "one and a" is a triplet figure, and the words in capitals are what your hands are tapping. From what I described earlier, your right hand will play each number, and your left hand plays ONE, then AND, then A right before four.
It's really difficult to explain when the person isn't right in front of you, but try that out. Rhythm can easily be practiced away from a piano.
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Interested in discussing:
-Prokofiev Toccata
-Scriabin Sonata 2
wfrith
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Re: Repetoire suggestions. And hi, I'm new.
Reply #5 on: February 17, 2010, 07:35:27 AM
Thank you for the tip.
I do "play piano" on random objects. My friends look at my like I'm crazy, but when I'm bored, I sit there and run my fingers along a piano run all the time.
I'm more looking for the actual timing rather than the technique. I've played two eighth notes in the RH and a tuplet in the LH in Chopins Prelude in E minor (the famous one that makes you want to cry
) .
I just need piece(s) that teach me how to really play the rhythm with 16th notes (or eighth or quarter notes) in one hand and 8th tuplets in the other. I can play 8th notes and 8th note tuplets simultaneously.
It's the 16th notes in one hand + the 8th note tuplets in the other that really get me.
EDIT: I can play pieces that have strong runs in one hand. I just have a hard time matching tuplets with regular notes. I'd love some early advanced pieces that are rhythmically equal and some mid-late intermediates that blend tuplets and eighth/sixteenth notes.
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orangesodaking
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Re: Repetoire suggestions. And hi, I'm new.
Reply #6 on: February 17, 2010, 01:08:08 PM
I am a supporter of Hanon's Virtoso Pianist. Exercises are tedious, but you don't need to practice them a whole lot. Maybe 15 minutes a day TOPS.
Play a Mozart Sonata or two... B flat major K. 333 is a really good one, and there are other really good ones too. Bach 2 and 3 part inventions are (I think) essential to learn too. For romantic music, I like Mendelssohn's Songs Without Words and Brahm's works from Opp. 116-119 (wonderful short piano pieces). I think there may be other opus numbers around that area I am forgetting too... And of course, Debussy has some great pieces like the 24 Preludes, or if you want a challenge Pour le Piano.
One of my biggest recommendations is to play music from all eras (Baroque, Classical, Romantic, Impressionistic, and 20th Century) to be a well-rounded pianist, and to also learn slow pretty pieces that "call a virtuoso's bluff" so-to-say... It will make you a more musical pianist.
Keep practicing and keep up the hard work!
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horowitzian
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Re: Repetoire suggestions. And hi, I'm new.
Reply #7 on: February 17, 2010, 11:51:19 PM
I agree on Hanon. Excellent exercise, but not needed above a small session daily. ß
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liordavid
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Re: Repetoire suggestions. And hi, I'm new.
Reply #8 on: March 05, 2010, 01:13:55 PM
i think that your prety good for a 3 year pianist. u r defenitly ready for the beethoven sonatas
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