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Offline jlh

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Recital programming ideas
on: March 08, 2010, 12:20:36 AM
Hey guys, would like some advice on new rep for my next DMA recital:

Schumann Sonata in F# min op 11
Chopin Barcarolle
JSBach Partita in G Major No. 5
Ravel Pavane
Rachmaninoff Corelli Vars
Liszt Spanish Rhapsody

Ok, so I would like to program the Schumann for one half of the recital. 

I was thinking if would be fun to program the Rach and Liszt together because of the shared theme.  My concern is that it would be too heavy with the Schumann. 

Other ideas are to do chopin with rach or chopin with bach.  Ravel could be thrown in anywhere or as an encore.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Josh
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Re: Recital programming ideas
Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 09:28:05 PM
Just some ideas:

I would personally play the Schumann as the first piece. Of course it may not be comfortable to play such a big piece first, but I have heard it done by Zimerman and Pollini ( and maybe Cziffra but I can't really remember for sure) and it worked out really well.

Then (and this is just an idea):
Bach
Chopin
Rach
Liszt

Bach is often considered good as a first piece. And Liszt would work (imo) well as an ending piece because it has much bravura.

Is all of this for one recital? It seams quite big!

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Re: Recital programming ideas
Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 04:01:43 AM
Just some ideas:

I would personally play the Schumann as the first piece. Of course it may not be comfortable to play such a big piece first, but I have heard it done by Zimerman and Pollini ( and maybe Cziffra but I can't really remember for sure) and it worked out really well.

Then (and this is just an idea):
Bach
Chopin
Rach
Liszt

Bach is often considered good as a first piece. And Liszt would work (imo) well as an ending piece because it has much bravura.

Is all of this for one recital? It seams quite big!

No lol this is not all for one recital.  Wow that would be torture for an audience!

The rep listed are ideas for the rest of the recital.  I would like to see what others think would be the best (in your opinion) way to narrow the recital down to maybe 60-75 mins or so.  Schumann is already programmed.  What of the others would you personally program with it?
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Re: Recital programming ideas
Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 07:18:44 AM
Hi Josh,

I'm really happy to see you're going with the magnificent Schumann Op. 11, which is undeservedly underplayed.  For the second half, I would add the Barcarolle and then finish it off with the Spanish Rhapsody.  I think the Corelli Variations would weigh it down after the Schumann.

I hope you post the Schumann here especially. :)
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Re: Recital programming ideas
Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 02:00:55 AM
I have recently started the Mendelssohn Opus 35 Preludes and Fuges set. These are notoriously underplayed (due to "extreme technical difficulty" versus "lack of performance cudos"). I think Mendelssohn and Schumann pair extremely well. The Schumann Opus 11 and the Mendelssohn Opus 35 in particular would make an awesome recital combo.
Currently rehearsing:

Chopin Ballades (all)
Rachmaninov prelude in Bb Op 23 No 2
Mozart A minor sonata K310
Prokofiev 2nd sonata
Bach WTCII no 6
Busoni tr Bach toccata in D minor

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Re: Recital programming ideas
Reply #5 on: March 11, 2010, 12:39:01 AM
I feel this order:


Schumann Sonata in F# min op 11

JSBach Partita in G Major No. 5
Rachmaninoff Corelli Vars

Chopin Barcarolle

Liszt Spanish Rhapsody
Ravel Pavane



Lovely program btw, the Schumann is imo the most difficult to play convincingly (I have been bored to tears listening to poor interpretations in concert and fought to remain awake) and if you play it well you will have them eating out your hands throughout the rest. It is a huge ask of an audience a Schumann Sonata, huge demands on the performer to keep the audience with them because it is so easy to lose them (it is easy to drone on and on while playing some of Schumann's lines).
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Re: Recital programming ideas
Reply #6 on: March 11, 2010, 12:59:58 AM
I feel this order:


Schumann Sonata in F# min op 11

JSBach Partita in G Major No. 5
Rachmaninoff Corelli Vars

Chopin Barcarolle

Liszt Spanish Rhapsody
Ravel Pavane



Lovely program btw, the Schumann is imo the most difficult to play convincingly (I have been bored to tears listening to poor interpretations in concert and fought to remain awake) and if you play it well you will have them eating out your hands throughout the rest. It is a huge ask of an audience a Schumann Sonata, huge demands on the performer to keep the audience with them because it is so easy to lose them (it is easy to drone on and on while playing some of Schumann's lines).

There's no way I can do all of those in a single concert... would take like 3 hours!!

If you were to pair the Schumann with any combination of 2 of the rest not counting the Ravel, what would you choose?  Trying to keep the recital to an hour or so.

Thanks!
Josh
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Re: Recital programming ideas
Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 02:01:55 AM
Lol ok I thought you where going to present them all! :) I should have read closely what you said before!

I thought you should have the Chopin no matter what you choose (because its a wonderful piece), then choose out of the 3 groups. If you have your heart set on the Schumann then I would choose: Schumann, Chopin Liszt, Ravel. If you want to neglect the Ravel then: Schumann Bach Rach Chopin (I know it's longer than 1 hour tho)

But to have a 1 hour recital the Schumann eats up way to much time, its like 30+ minutes. I would do the Schumann for the 1st half, let the people have an interval or break, then do the next half, because even for me listening to that piece is a marathon. Id like to see: Bach,Rach Chopin Liszt, Ravel.
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