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Offline cindya

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ornaments
on: May 10, 2010, 12:55:50 PM
how can we play a good ornament? are there any technics to get a good sound?

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Re: ornaments
Reply #1 on: May 10, 2010, 01:19:44 PM
I'm guiltily going to state the obvious... practice.  It comes, I swear.
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Chopin Prelude Op. 28, no. 15
Schubert Sonata in A Major, D.959: Allegretto

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Re: ornaments
Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 12:51:38 PM
ok..
thanks for the advice..
maybe i should do more practice..
so i can get a good sound for my ornament playing..
but sometimes my ring finger like no power..
so there was a miss tone when i was playing the piano..

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Re: ornaments
Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 02:21:12 PM
which sort of ornament are you having trouble executing?  Some are definitely harder than others, and it depends on the keys involved.   For instance, if I have to trill using a black key, it's SO much harder for me with white keys.   And if I need to use fingers 4 and 5, there is less strength there as well.   Then there's the whole factor of duration on a trill.... if it's a short one, little problem.  But the endurance on a long one is just something you need to train for.

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Chopin Prelude Op. 28, no. 15
Schubert Sonata in A Major, D.959: Allegretto

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Re: ornaments
Reply #4 on: May 12, 2010, 08:06:33 AM
on trill and sometimes for the mordent..
ya, me too..
my 4 n 5 fingers are less strength especially for played the ornament..
it's so hard for me to make an excellent point at that part if i used my 4 n 5 fingers..
what do you think, should i continue to practice the ornament with fingers 4 n 5 or i change the fingers with 3 n 4 or 2 n 1??

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Re: ornaments
Reply #5 on: May 12, 2010, 04:39:07 PM
I definitely think you should practice on your weaker fingers, because there are times when you just can't get out of using them without sacrificing the following measure.   Do them slowly when you practice to build up your strength, but not to the point where you feel pain.  If it aches, you're doing it wrong. If you have Hanon, there are trilling exercises in the back.   The one Mozart used to perfect his is published there as well.

There are some trilling dynamos on this forum that I hope will chime in.
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Chopin Prelude Op. 28, no. 15
Schubert Sonata in A Major, D.959: Allegretto

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Re: ornaments
Reply #6 on: May 13, 2010, 01:45:37 AM
ok..
I'll practice it..
thanks for your advice, it was really help me..
:)
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