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Topic: On the proper performance of all Beethoven's works for the piano?  (Read 5731 times)

Offline nmitchell076

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I checked out a copy of this work by Czerny when I was at college, now that I'm home for the summer, that copy of it is out of reach.  Are there any free online sources of this work? It seems like there would be, but my search has come up dry.

It seems to be in my memory that the work is actually a section within a larger opus (possibly the Art of Finger Dexterity?)  If so, then I could probably find it by searching for that work, but I can't remember which work it was.

Any help in this will be greatly appreciated!
Pieces:
Beethoven - Sonata No. 17 in D minor, Op. 31 No. 2
Chopin - Nocturne in Bb minor Op. 9 No. 1
Debussy - "La Danse De Puck"
Somers - Sonnet No. 3, "Primeval"
Gershwin - Concerto in F

Offline finger_yogi

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I checked out a copy of this work by Czerny when I was at college, now that I'm home for the summer, that copy of it is out of reach.
Are you looking for Czerny's works or for Beethoven's works?



  Are there any free online sources of this work? It seems like there would be, but my search has come up dry.
How did you search for the work/s online (i.e. what words/phrases did you search for)? Maybe when you give us an idea of how you searched, we might have ideas as to why your search came up dry.

It seems to be in my memory that the work is actually a section within a larger opus (possibly the Art of Finger Dexterity?)  If so, then I could probably find it by searching for that work, but I can't remember which work it was.

Any help in this will be greatly appreciated!

Offline stevebob

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Are you looking for Czerny's works or for Beethoven's works?

How did you search for the work/s online (i.e. what words/phrases did you search for)? Maybe when you give us an idea of how you searched, we might have ideas as to why your search came up dry.

The title in question is "On the Proper Performance of All Beethoven's Works"; it's by Carl Czerny.

A search on that exact title reveals that there's apparently no edition of it in the public domain.  When the OP said that his search for a free online source came up dry, I think that's what he meant.
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Offline finger_yogi

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My initial search brought me to this title:
"On the proper performance of all Beethoven's works for the piano : Czerny's "Reminiscences of Beethoven" and chapters II and III from volume IV of the "Complete theoretical and practical piano forte school, op. 500" (see ISBN-13: 9783702428372; ISBN:3702428372)

Maybe the OP is referring to Czerny's Op. 500??
I found an online version, but it is in German.
https://www.koelnklavier.de/quellen/czer-op500/_index.html

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https://rapidshare.com/files/390139369/czerny.7z

I seem to have both English and German versions. The UE Edition number gives me a date of 1970, so is Public Domain.

This is a modern Edition of the original publised by Cocks.

Due to the size, I have uploaded to me Rapidshare account.

With thanks to the original scanner which was not me.

Thal
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Concerto Preservation Society

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Czerny's Op. 500 in English (downloadable PDF)
Chapter II: https://www.box.net/shared/zz1gatmu1j
Chapter III: https://www.box.net/shared/ul0hdxv7dk

These are links from post in the PianoWorld forum in 2009

Offline stevebob

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Maybe the OP is referring to Czerny's Op. 500??
I found an online version, but it is in German.
https://www.koelnklavier.de/quellen/czer-op500/_index.html

Maybe he was, as he did speculate that it may have been part of a larger work.  It's also been published separately.

When you asked, "Are you looking for Czerny's works or for Beethoven's works?" I assumed you were confused by his inquiry.  Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Offline nmitchell076

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Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it.

On a side note, does anyone have any opinions on how reliable Czerny's interpretations are?
Pieces:
Beethoven - Sonata No. 17 in D minor, Op. 31 No. 2
Chopin - Nocturne in Bb minor Op. 9 No. 1
Debussy - "La Danse De Puck"
Somers - Sonnet No. 3, "Primeval"
Gershwin - Concerto in F

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[D]oes anyone have any opinions on how reliable Czerny's interpretations are?

I don't, but I happened to come across something else this morning that you might find interesting.  It's a treatise by Franz Kullak, originally published in 1901 by G. Schirmer and now public domain, called Beethoven's piano-playing, with an essay on the execution of the trill:

https://books.google.com/books?id=q-8PAAAAYAAJ

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