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Topic: the future of composers = just to copy the masters??-  (Read 1741 times)

Offline ethelion1373

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it seems that everybody are focusing on how to play the compositions of the old Masters, will it stay like this or someone will be brave enough, skill full enough to try and create something like they did.( i mean good compositions, arrangements ) watch the video and post here what you think.

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Re: the future of composers = just to copy the masters??-
Reply #1 on: May 24, 2010, 09:48:18 AM
I'm sorry, but WHAT? Really, what are u talking about?

it seems that everybody are focusing on how to play the compositions of the old Masters, will it stay like this or someone will be brave enough, skill full enough to try and create something like they did.

It's funny, because contrary to the past centuries, we live in a musical world, in which composers are (in most cases) no longer instrumentalists, but are focusing on composing instead of "how to play the compositions of the old Masters".
The great composers themself never tried to create something "like they did" but to create something new. Just look at Beethoven, it's so revolutionary, although there existed great masters before him. If he just had copied Haydn, nobody would ever talk about him today.

i mean good compositions, arrangements

Are you saying there are no good contemporary composition/composers? Wow!
And are you trying to compare the field of composing to arranging? Ok.


I have stopped listening to thad video after 30 sec, because it really bored me. It's all stuff we already heard 1000 times before.
Are you saying that this comes anywhere close to a composition of the "old masters"?

edit: by the way, you are comparing improvisations to compositions, which are two completely different things. If you like to hear some really interesting improv go to the audition room!

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Re: the future of composers = just to copy the masters??-
Reply #2 on: May 26, 2010, 07:08:46 AM
so, there are compositions you like (composed 1990 - present) (piano solo)
if there is can you post it? i wanna hear the likings of classical pianist (thinking you are one)

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Re: the future of composers = just to copy the masters??-
Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 09:10:47 AM
well I thought the same, and nowadays artists have more liberty to produce music as they want without having to follow rules like Mozart or Chopin had to.
I'm not a fan of contemporary music, since in general it just mess up my system and I end up all nervous lol
but the new compositors are in other areas like movies. they respond to the needs of todays people, they create what people want, just like all the other had, Bach, Mozart, Chopin, created what people liked to ear and what was on fashion those days.
personally I love 2 compositors from now days:
Dario Marianelli -

Ryuchi Sakamoto -
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there was already a revolution in music, baroque had it's music, romantic it's one, medieval it's one, and we have ours. music expresses the culture of a period, just that.
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Re: the future of composers = just to copy the masters??-
Reply #4 on: June 23, 2010, 09:26:11 AM
so, there are compositions you like (composed 1990 - present) (piano solo)
if there is can you post it? i wanna hear the likings of classical pianist (thinking you are one)


So you are suprized that you dont know any great composers in the past 20 years, while there have been only few in the last 400 years? Plus how do you know for sure that in 50 years we wont be praising that one 'modern composer' from the year 2010?
1+1=11

Offline pianisten1989

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Re: the future of composers = just to copy the masters??-
Reply #5 on: June 23, 2010, 12:52:09 PM
I have so many bad things to say about this thread, so I just keep quiet.

Offline retrouvailles

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Re: the future of composers = just to copy the masters??-
Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 03:04:42 PM
I have so many bad things to say about this thread, so I just keep quiet.

Yeah, same here. I would exhaust myself far too quickly with the amount of things wrong here.

Offline mistermoe

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Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 04:39:55 PM
I have so many bad things to say about this thread, so I just keep quiet.

Yeah, same here. I would exhaust myself far too quickly with the amount of things wrong here.

This kind of threads are terrible. Somehow you feel the need to respond, knowing the other person will most likely never change his mind on this subject....  :-\

Absolutely exhausting

On the other hand, i really ask myself why we care? Serious question. Why?

Offline pianisten1989

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Reply #8 on: June 23, 2010, 10:41:16 PM
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