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Offline ahmedito

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Double escape mecanism... a mistake?
on: July 17, 2004, 04:38:13 AM
I had the chance recently to play on a very old Pleyel, with a single escape, and the feel of the keys was very nice... especially for playing Chopin. Stuff I have read in history books about Chopin´s opinion of double escape suddenly makes sense now!

I wonder if there will ever be a way of recreating the lightness and feel of single escape keys with a double escape mecanism.
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Offline Snappy Joe

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Re: Double escape mecanism... a mistake?
Reply #1 on: July 18, 2004, 03:21:05 AM
What is a "Double Escape" ? Light keys?
Clarify please  :D
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Re: Double escape mecanism... a mistake?
Reply #2 on: July 18, 2004, 03:33:43 AM
Harpsichords and old fortepianos used the single escape mecanism (almost intact since Cristofori invented the piano key mechanism). In the beggining of the 19th century the double escape mecanism was invented by Erard. Basically, this permited you to press the key again without it having to go all the way up because the hammer didnt need to go all the way down necesarilly. Not everyone was happy with this mechanism, and Chopin hated it. Hence, people like Horowitz would say that Chopin is impossible to play as it should be played on modern pianos (I dont agree with this, just quoting). But it was VERY good for technique, because now you could have a lot more control of dinamics and play a lot faster and play repeated notes a lot faster. Now, you can check on any modern piano, the key has a very slight stop on the second escape, when you press the key all the way down really slowly youll feel it. Single escape keys have VERY light action, and you can press the key slightly and it will still sound. Im aware of the incredible advantages double escape mecanism has given the piano, but I really wish there were a way to recreate the single escape feel completely. Its a whole other feeling.
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Re: Double escape mecanism... a mistake?
Reply #3 on: July 18, 2004, 09:10:54 PM
The single escapement action you are referring to is called a Viennese action. If you can find an older Blüthner grand from about 1900 to 1935, with the Blüthner Patent Action, you can enjoy the same quick, light touch.
The only problem is, a piano that old will need the action rebuilt, and the patent actions of Blüthner are not easy to do. :)
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Re: Double escape mecanism... a mistake?
Reply #4 on: July 18, 2004, 11:04:57 PM
thanx!
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