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wojcia3333
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Russian Piano School - Genealogy tree
on: July 07, 2010, 01:27:41 PM
Another part of my work. This time on Russian School.
I am open to any suggestions as to the layout, which should/should not be included, mistakes I made.
The arrows go from the teacher to students.
Country in brackets is a country of birth. (Letters after brackets are references, which will be included at later stage). The red color indicates somebody important in the line, while blue shows an outside influence.
I am looking at famous pianists and teachers that had either many famous students or taught someone famous pianists. I understand the ambiguity of the word "famous".
Enjoy and please do comment.
Here is the link:
https://www.concertpianist.com.au/html/russiantree.html
I was not trying to be biased towards anyone. If someone is not included, it is probably due to the amount of time it takes for me to collect and check the data.
The graph is based on the Oxford Encyclopedia, Grove and many other resources (books, articles etc) that I will be gradually indicating in the updated versions of the graph.
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pianist1976
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Re: Russian Piano School - Genealogy tree
Reply #1 on: July 07, 2010, 03:43:58 PM
Just extraordinary!
I'm becoming a big fan of your work. I downloaded your general piano tree and enjoyed very much. I was looking many time for something like that.
Great work! (and thank you very much)
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michel dvorsky
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Re: Russian Piano School - Genealogy tree
Reply #2 on: July 08, 2010, 06:17:11 PM
Great work! Still a long ways to go though, because it's a huge task.
You might want to expand under Leschetitzky, too.
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retrouvailles
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Re: Russian Piano School - Genealogy tree
Reply #3 on: July 09, 2010, 03:24:47 AM
You could also include Nikolai Kapustin under Alexander Goldenweiser. Just a quick emendation.
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wojcia3333
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Re: Russian Piano School - Genealogy tree
Reply #4 on: July 10, 2010, 01:51:24 PM
Leschetitzky is coming soon. I have made a separate tree for him.
There will be also a separate tree for Chopin, and Czerny, the Polish School and the separate page with all other pianists/teachers that have not found their place in the earlier sections.
Thanks for the Kapustin although I know him more as a composer. Certainly worth mentioning.
Also, the general tree is been totally reworked. Layout needs to be clearer and I will try not to include everybody as I did in the first place.
I will work on the appropriate graphics and layout when all data is ready and the structure of each tree is clear to me.
Thanks guys, its great to hear few words of encouragement:)
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nearenough
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Re: Russian Piano School - Tumarkin
Reply #5 on: July 10, 2010, 02:03:58 PM
I attended Tufts College (now University) in 1955-1959 as a pre-med student and won a 2 year scholarship with Mr. Leon Tumarkin. We had a great time discussing and demonstrating piano techniques, fingerings, what Horowitz would do and many aspects of the "Russian" School, although it was not necessarily called such. Chiefly it was bell effects (such as can be heard in Rachmaninoff and Scriabin) and the churning, ox-cart, halting grinding emphatic plodding sometime heard in chordal sequences (as in aspects of Rachmaninoff's piano sonata 2 and last Etude Tableaux Op 39 (Horowitz) and Moussorgsky (Bydlo(sp?). Tumarkin was a wonderful person full of sly humor and helpful ways. He said he was taught by Siloti (and had the Liszt inheritance). He has a son Bobby who was a fine pianist, but I have lost track of him. If anyone knew Leon, I would like to hear from you. Thanks.
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mikey6
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Re: Russian Piano School - Genealogy tree
Reply #6 on: July 11, 2010, 10:22:46 PM
I think you put Sherbakov a 'bit' before his time though
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wojcia3333
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Re: Russian Piano School - Genealogy tree
Reply #7 on: July 13, 2010, 12:50:05 PM
Thanks guys. Scerbakov will be fixed in the next update:)
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jpowell
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Re: Russian Piano School - Genealogy tree
Reply #8 on: July 15, 2010, 08:48:18 AM
Well, very good. There's a lot more you can do.
Feinberg's students Merzhanov and Viktor Bunin need to be in there.
Goldenweiser also taught Dmitry Paperno, Nelly Akopian and Sulamita Aronovsky, and VERY many others!
Blumenfeld also taught Simon Barer and Leonid Tsfasman (a pioneer of Soviet Jazz).
It might be worth mentioning that Zverev also taught Scriabin, who taught Nemenova-Lunz etc.
Will let you know as I think of more.
Do you have all those Soviet books about these teachers? They have much of the information.
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