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Offline franz_

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Rach 2 - Tchaikovsky 1
on: August 13, 2010, 07:02:21 PM
Which one is technically the hardest for you?
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- Bach: P&F No 21 WTC I

Offline chopianist123

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Re: Rach 2 - Tchaikovsky 1
Reply #1 on: August 13, 2010, 07:48:28 PM
Rach 2 is technically harder for me.

Offline franz_

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Re: Rach 2 - Tchaikovsky 1
Reply #2 on: August 13, 2010, 07:51:04 PM
You played both? And where exactly?
The point is that Tchaikovsky is more transparant, so each mistake is clearly heard... no?
Currently learing:
- Chopin: Ballade No.3
- Scriabin: Etude Op. 8 No. 2
- Rachmaninoff: Etude Op. 33 No. 6
- Bach: P&F No 21 WTC I

Offline franz-liszt

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Re: Rach 2 - Tchaikovsky 1
Reply #3 on: August 13, 2010, 08:02:14 PM
I agree; Tchaikowsky's 1st is definately more transparent whereas Rachmaninoff's is more improvisitory; the mistakes usually blend better.
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Re: Rach 2 - Tchaikovsky 1
Reply #4 on: August 14, 2010, 01:14:56 AM
You played both? And where exactly?
The point is that Tchaikovsky is more transparant, so each mistake is clearly heard... no?

I wonder how anyone would know your point before it was made.

As to "where exactly" they were played, it goes without saying that not every participant on this board is a performing professional.  I think an amateur playing these concertos in his own living room accompanied by a Music Minus One CD has experience worth sharing.
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Offline franz_

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Re: Rach 2 - Tchaikovsky 1
Reply #5 on: August 14, 2010, 08:12:48 AM
My question was not clear. When asked 'where', I wanted to ask where in the scores the technical difficulties are for the person who answered to me. Not in which hall or on which stage he played them.

As for a general conclusion to you guys: Rach 2 or Tchikovsky 1 ? :)
Currently learing:
- Chopin: Ballade No.3
- Scriabin: Etude Op. 8 No. 2
- Rachmaninoff: Etude Op. 33 No. 6
- Bach: P&F No 21 WTC I

Offline gyzzzmo

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Re: Rach 2 - Tchaikovsky 1
Reply #6 on: August 15, 2010, 01:46:01 PM
rach 2
1+1=11

Offline thalbergmad

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Re: Rach 2 - Tchaikovsky 1
Reply #7 on: August 15, 2010, 03:40:40 PM
I think an amateur playing these concertos in his own living room accompanied by a Music Minus One CD has experience worth sharing.

My God, i agree with you ;D

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Offline franz_

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Re: Rach 2 - Tchaikovsky 1
Reply #8 on: August 16, 2010, 03:20:55 PM
Sooo, till now Rach 2 takes the lead in being the hardest...? :)
Currently learing:
- Chopin: Ballade No.3
- Scriabin: Etude Op. 8 No. 2
- Rachmaninoff: Etude Op. 33 No. 6
- Bach: P&F No 21 WTC I

Offline fbt

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Re: Rach 2 - Tchaikovsky 1
Reply #9 on: August 17, 2010, 02:51:16 PM
The question should be -which concerto is more aesthetically pleasing to me as a performer and which concerto will my talents best serve the composer's intentions. As far as which one is "harder" my humble opinion would be Tchaicovsky. Rach 2 was composed by a pianist who knew all the ins and outs of writing for the piano. Tchai's is a beautiful showcase for pianist and orchestra but not composed with the comfort of the pianist in mind. As someone else said it is more transparent and sometimes awkward.
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