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Topic: Elisabeth von Herzogenbergs 8 Pianopieces - another "first recording"?  (Read 1496 times)

Offline Steffen Fahl

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Here is a recording of Elisabeth von Herzogenbergs wonderful 8 Pianopieces.
Elisabeth von Herzogenberg 8 Pianopieces
Am I right that there is any recording available or known or did I just googled not enough.

I posted the Score at pianophila, since obviously Elisabeth von Herzogenberg was not mentioned there to, meanwhile she was not only Pianist but also one of the most important musical friends of Johannes Brahms, who had a high esteem of her musical judgement.
Listen to the pieces and you probably will understand why.

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Steffen

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For two reasons i am glad that you are using your technology for unrecorded works. Firstly, it could well inspire people to play them and record them and secondly, it reduces the chances of arguments arising from comparisons with existing recordings.

This is good music and good work and i look forward to further examples.

If your system might work with piano concertos with limited orchestration, perhaps we could do some joint projects.

Thal
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For two reasons i am glad that you are using your technology for unrecorded works. Firstly, it could well inspire people to play them and record them and secondly, it reduces the chances of arguments arising from comparisons with existing recordings.

This is good music and good work and i look forward to further examples.

If your system might work with piano concertos with limited orchestration, perhaps we could do some joint projects.

Thal
Hi Thal
It seems you slowly get used to the sheer provocation of my pure existance  ;)
Take it from another side: I just musically do what I am interested in.
I don't have to earn my money with it.
But I like music and I like to share what I have done.
If you like - great. If not - no problem.

As you might perhaps already discovered on my site, I did some pianoconcerts, mostly just one movement, since the orchestration is really some more work to do. But if I am interested, it is still possible. So the more "limited" the Orchestration is, the easier is the work for me, since I just have to care for each single instrument. So if you like rarely heard music, joint projects might be of interest to me to. (But this is also a reason why the major musical work i can do is in the summerhollydays, when I must not work).
For instance one Project I allways would like to do, is to collect the scores of Georg Anton Bendas Pianoconcerts. I have some, but am far from  being complete. It such a great musician and wonderful pianist. Mozart thought Benda would be the only german besides Bach who understand something of music at all  ;)
So if you might help me to find the Concert that are missing, this would be already a good project. Meanwhile I am also quite interested in what you think about proposing "joint projects".
best
Steffen

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Early classical concertos are not really my area of expertise (if I have any at all) and I am not sure how many Benda wrote. However, I do have originals of the Musica Antiqua Bohemica volume 45, which contains concertos in F moll, H moll & G dur and volume 10 which contains a concerto in g moll, all in full score.

I am assuming that it is essential that you have a full score as opposed to a solo version with orchestral markings, since the latter would simply not provide enough information however minimal the orchestral part.

I do not recall playing any of these and so could not comment on the music, but if they contain any you do not have, i can put them on my "to be digitalised" pile.

Thal

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Early classical concertos are not really my area of expertise (if I have any at all) and I am not sure how many Benda wrote. However, I do have originals of the Musica Antiqua Bohemica volume 45, which contains concertos in F moll, H moll & G dur and volume 10 which contains a concerto in g moll, all in full score.

I am assuming that it is essential that you have a full score as opposed to a solo version with orchestral markings, since the latter would simply not provide enough information however minimal the orchestral part.

I do not recall playing any of these and so could not comment on the music, but if they contain any you do not have, i can put them on my "to be digitalised" pile.

Thal


Hi Thal,
Thanks for looking I already have those plus two in F-Major and anotherone in G-Major will say I have 7 of the assumed 10 Concertos. If I am right informed I should look for one in on in Bb minor C-Major and one in D-Major.
But since the first page of my score of the B-minor concert is a really bad copy, you might perhaps digitalise that certain page (P.39 of Musica Antiqua Bohemica) for me.

Since I am a great Fan of Projects and joint ventures I am still interested, what kind of project you thought about ;)
best
Steffen

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I have just visited your site, and am really impressed with the quality of the work you have done.  I am listening to your Pierne 'Etude Symphonique' as I write, and imagine that you must have had a very good human generated midi input as a starting point.

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I have just visited your site, and am really impressed with the quality of the work you have done.  I am listening to your Pierne 'Etude Symphonique' as I write, and imagine that you must have had a very good human generated midi input as a starting point.

First thank you very much for those kind words about my personal hobby. This is especially here not so often, that I may read such pleasant comments.

Actually I must confess for the Pierné it was no "human" playing at all (just human thinking), as it is true for nearly all my more recent recordings which is still a quite exhausting work to do, till it comes at least near to the sound the musical Idea is looking for. There are two things, that help me to work musically with the Software. The first ist the fact that I constantly play as well as demanding as interesting Repertoire on the Piano for nearly all my life what ever Timeconsuming Work has to be done beside, that keeps the imagination near the real playing and the second is the time of more than four Years I was able to spent (just beside some Pianolessons I gave at that time) nearly totally to the practice, playing,  recording and edit the Bach, Haydn and Liszt Pieces on my site. Messieaens Vingt regards was the 20th century Composition I worked on likewise, but in respect to german copyrights I cannot put thoses Pieces also online. I know that the Results of those recordings and Editings are in many aspects far from being perfect, but they helped me at least to get my musical understanding a bit adapted to the modern technical means.
Thanks once again for your comment
best Steffen
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