15-year old pianist Dmitry Tyurin! Genious!

[aopaleva]

Hello, dear members, my name is Alina, and I'm brand new to this forum. I'd like to share with you some videos of Dmitriy Tyurin, the rising star of Russian piano music. He started playing the piano at the age of 5, and the power of his talent is simply astonishing...Dmitriy has just entered The Gnesins' Academy of Music in Moscow, and was the only student who got an A for an entrance audition. I hope you'll enjoy them too,so please leave your comments!

1)  F.Liszt. Etude d'execution transcendante №10 f-moll:

2)  G.Verdi - F.Liszt. Fantasy on Rigoletto

And this is a direct link to his channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/dmtyurin

[pianisten1989]

He's not a genius. He's good, but not That good..

[pianist1976]

Well, I think that the word "genius" is a bit overused and abused these days. If we call "genius" to every kid who plays fine the piano, what word would be applied to the real geniuses such as Bach, Beethoven, Chopin and others? ultra-mega-genius? Have no sense  

Anyway this kid is talented and has a very good mechanism. But, in order to try to do a constructive criticism, I'd say that he also have many things to improve in a musical and expresive way. I only listened to the trascendental etude and it sounded a bit "bang" or beaten to me. It needs more expresion and more legato. I also missed a bigger dynamic range. It sounded a bit plane to me, everything with the same intention and intensity.

But I'm not writing this to discourage your friend, I think he's talented, he plays fine for his age, he's still very young and have many years and many room to improve. Time will tell if this sentence ("the power of his talent is simply astonishing") is exaggerated or not but today I see this simply exaggerated.

[lostinidlewonder]

He has fantastic talent, great strength and clarity in the Liszt. That's what the Russians like. Genius will change your opinion and view on things, this boy is just trained under the Russian school which demands these big sounds. He certainly deserves an A for his entrance examination.

[lontano]

Well, I think that the word "genius" is a bit overused and abused these days. If we call "genius" to every kid who plays fine the piano, what word would be applied to the real geniuses such as Bach, Beethoven, Chopin and others? ultra-mega-genius? Have no sense  

Anyway this kid is talented and has a very good mechanism. But, in order to try to do a constructive criticism, I'd say that he also have many things to improve in a musical and expresive way. I only listened to the trascendental etude and it sounded a bit "bang" or beaten to me. It needs more expresion and more legato. I also missed a bigger dynamic range. It sounded a bit plane to me, everything with the same intention and intensity.

But I'm not writing this to discourage your friend, I think he's talented, he plays fine for his age, he's still very young and have many years and many room to improve. Time will tell if this sentence ("the power of his talent is simply astonishing") is exaggerated or not but today I see this simply exaggerated.

I certainly agree that "genius" is becoming the new "mundane", but that's not saying that this lad isn't very talented (I'd give my right arm to play like him! ). Also, the quality of the audio leaves much to be desired (on the Liszt Etude link) making a critical analysis near impossible.

[pianist1976]

Well, I think that my words has been misunderstood  

I did not say that this boy isn't talented. Anyway, what can be defined as talent? Maybe it's the potential to do something. In my humble opinion, this interpretation, while almost perfect mechanically (which is already an excellent and difficult point to achieve, very valuable) and good in many aspects, can still very much improved. I only wanted to do a constructive criticism, from the view of my experience but, above all, from the view of a person (me) who is the first one who needs so many, many improvements in his playing but despite this, I think that I can help a little  

Isn't this constructive criticsm which help us all to improve the spirit of Audition Room? Alright, the recording quality is not optimal but there are many details which can be analyzed. I think that if everybody says to this kid "whoa, you play this so perfect", he will stop improving. This person was presented in the forum as a "genius" and "the rising star of Russian piano music", those are really big words so comparison with another former "rising stars" such as the young Ashkenazy, Sokolov, Pletnev and Kissin is unavoidable.

Anyway, please, don't misunderstand me. Is he talented? Unmistakably yes. Are there things to improve? In my humble opinion, this is also true.

[aopaleva]

I really appreciate everybody's honest opinion. However, keep in mind that the boy was only 13-14 years old when this video was recorded. I would like to add that it's very hard to judge the performance of young pianist, since you can't expect a 13-year old to play like an adult...

[pianisten1989]

I really appreciate everybody's honest opinion. However, keep in mind that the boy was only 13-14 years old when this video was recorded. I would like to add that it's very hard to judge the performance of young pianist, since you can't expect a 13-year old to play like an adult...

Well.. One difference between a talented student and a genius is that a talented student is just that. If he would be a genius, none would think of him as a boy...

There are plenty of students who can play like that. I know couple of very talented boys, playing Brahms paganini-variations and mazeppa when they were 14.. soo....

[birba]

Interesting talent.  I'm curious to see how this child prodigy develops.

[riskarb]

I reserve the word "genius" for those with creative gifts (evidenced by composition) as opposed to performance junkies who had unusual levels of poise/discipline/concentrative ability as a child ("performance junkies" or "prodigies" depending on how you look at it)..... he certainly qualifies in the latter respect.

But that's all semantics....... his Rach 2 third movement intro (to me) proves he's the real deal

[slow_concert_pianist]

Interesting talent.  I'm curious to see how this child prodigy develops.

I don't think you are. You look for vehicles for "scorn". Currently the trend is to "let off" the "progidies". They either progress to the "establishment" or FAIL....to be SCORNED.

Of course any concert pianist worth their salt looking for masterclass "fodder" DESPERATELY seeks the SCORNED. And the world rolls on in its sarcasm. Vive Prokofiev!!!

[birba]

What does it mean to "let off" the prodigies?  He's definitely a prodigy now.  Who, we hope, will develop into an artist.  And what does Prokofiev have to do with it?  I don't get it.  You're confusing me. 

[stevebob]

What are "vehicles for 'scorn'"?  Yugos?  Edsels?

[nikolasideris]

I certainly agree that "genius" is becoming the new "mundane", but that's not saying that this lad isn't very talented (I'd give my right arm to play like him! ). Also, the quality of the audio leaves much to be desired (on the Liszt Etude link) making a critical analysis near impossible.

You do realise that with a single arm you wold have huge issues in reaching his 'talents' on playing the piano!

15 isn't too young and I have no problem calling someone talented, or gifted or something (although I do have my issues with the general idea of talent...). I do, however, fear for the tons of 8 year olds around youtube, who get totally spoiled with this kind of sport and the early exposure in media!