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Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
on: September 28, 2010, 10:12:48 PM
Psst... littletune.  What's "I am" in Slovenian?
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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 12:50:07 PM
She's probably in school, now.  :(

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 04:03:16 PM
She'll be back.


Jaz sem Bob.

Vi ste Littletune. 

Pravi?

Is that a formal You for Vi?  Is there an informal You?


I used this site.
https://www.translation-guide.com/free_online_translators.php?from=English&to=Slovenian
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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 07:19:23 PM
Oh hi Bob! That's cool!!  8)  8) I can help you learn Slovenian!  :P

Jaz sem Bob is correct! :)
But: Vi ste Littletune is kinda funny :) not because it would be wrong, but because I'm just a kid.... and you usually don't say "vi" when you are talking to a kid :) (except if you would be very VERY polite and formal maybe but usually not).
When you talk to someone you know or if you talk to someone in informal way I guess, then you say: Ti si... like: Ti si Littletune :)
You usually say : Vi ste.... when you are talking to someone older that you don't know and when you are being very polite or formal I guess. (You would say "Vi ste" to those people that you would call miss or madam or mister in English).
Anything else you wanna know? :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #4 on: September 29, 2010, 07:24:30 PM
Wow.  That's a lot like Italian.  Tu sei  Voi siete.  :o

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 07:42:15 PM
Ok so...

Jaz sem Bob.     Is that Yahzz sehm for the sound?

Vi ste Bernard.   If I was talking to Bernard who is older than me.  So vi is the formal you, at least you singular.

Ti si Littletune. 


On je Birba?

One je Littletune?

Ono je a klavir?


Mi smo godec.

Vi ste godec.  <-- Is vi also the plural form for you?  You formal plural?

Oni so godec.



Would this be right for personal pronouns?

Jaz           first person, singular
Ti (informal) You informal, second person
Vi (formal)   You formal, second person
On            Third person, singular masculine
One           Third person, singular feminine
Ono           Third person, nueter?  <-- Do you have masculine, feminine, and neuter (no gender) nouns?

Mi            We, first person plural
Vi            You, second person plural
??? Is there a plural "informal" you?  Ti as a group?
Oni           Third person, plural


Is 'obstati'the infinitive form of 'to be?'  Words like is, are, to be.

to be = obstati???

Jaz sem
Ti si
Vi ste
On je
One je
Ono je

Mi smo
Vi ste
Ti ste ???
Oni so


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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 08:13:48 PM
Wow that's a lot of things Bob  :)
yes I think : yahz sehm would be ok (except im not sure why it has to be with the h... would you say it differently if it was just yaz sem  :-\ oh well maybe)...
yes "Vi" is formal "ti" :) but "vi" is also a plural like: Vi ste moji prijatelji, means You are my friends.
Yes On je Birba.
And it's: Ona je Littletune (not one).
Well this with a piano is a little complicated  :-\ because in my language things like piano have gender too.... i mean they are male or female words or... middle gender  :-\ (i don't know what's that called), so u have to know for every word which gender it is.... so that's really hard i guess if u're learning language.... but even if you said the wrong gender everyone would understand of course so it doesn't matter that much :)
Well you would say: To je klavir. "To" means this.... But otherwise klavir (piano) is male gender word (or how you call that).
Hmmm godec means.... well that's kinda old word that people don't use that much (and I think it's more for the ones that play string instruments). If you wanna say We are musicians. You say : Mi smo glasbeniki.
yes "Vi" is plural form for you (ti).
Oni so godci. (not godec, plural of godec is godci) Oni so glasbeniki. (glasbenik- one person, glasbeniki- more people).
yes those are right except: ona (not one )
No there is not formal for Vi plural (it's the same)
no not obstati, but: biti
(ona je) others are right.
not ti ste, just:
mi smo
vi ste
oni so
and also: one so (if you only talk about females)
and there is also all of that for only two people, because you use plural if u're talking about 3 or more people, but it's different for two people..... ) i can tell you tomorrow if it won't be too confusing  :P now i have to go..... good night! lahko noč! :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 10:05:14 PM
Personal Pronouns, revised

Jaz           first person, singular
Ti (informal) You informal, second person
Vi (formal)   You formal, second person
On            Third person, singular masculine
Ona           Third person, singular feminine
Ono           Third person, nueter or middle gender?

Mi            We, first person plural
Vi            You, second person plural, both formal and informal?
Oni           Third person, plural (if at least one masculine item in the group???)
One         (if all female items in the group?)



Hmm.... Could I say...?
Ono je klavir.
It is a piano.

Mi smo glasbeniki.







So vi as a plural you is both formal and informal?


biti = to be   conjugated

singular...
Jaz sem
Ti si   (correct, I knew I missed one)
Vi ste
On je
Ona je
Ono je

plurals...
Mi smo
Vi ste (for both formal and informal???)
Oni so (if at least one masculine item in the group???)
One so (if all female items in the group?)



Jaz sem glasbenik.
Ti ste glasbenik.   ???  Or would that change if I was talking to a female?  glasbenika?

Mi smo glasbeniki.



Plural is three or more?  That's different than anything I've seen.  So you would have singular, pairs, and then 3+plural?


For names, do you actually say I am _(name)__, or would you say something more like "They call me __(name)___."?

Da (is that yes?), hvala (thank you?).  Lahko noč.
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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #8 on: September 29, 2010, 10:55:09 PM
Radi bi si ogledali cerkev...
 :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #9 on: September 29, 2010, 11:55:07 PM
Radi bi si ogledali cerkev...
 :)

I'm getting nothing... That's too much for me for now.  So I'll cheat.

So much for that.
"Radi bi yourself mirror steeple house"

I need a better English-Slovenian dictionary and translator.


https://www.lexilogos.com/english/slovenian_dictionary.htm
https://www.freelang.net/online/slovenian.php
https://www.yourdictionary.com/languages/slavic.html
https://translate.google.com/



Google works too.  
We would like to visit the church.
Radi bi si ogledali cerkev.

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #10 on: September 30, 2010, 07:28:10 AM
 ;D This is so much fun..  ;D I just can't stop myself to help... Sorry, maybe I should mind my own business  :)

You're getting wrong the personal pronouns. It's "Ti si", not "Ti ste". I'm not Slovenian but I'm pretty sure it's just the same like in other Slavic languages. When you are talking to someone informal you say "Ti si", and when you're talking formal or talking to many people it's "Vi ste". Hope I made it more clear for you  :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #11 on: September 30, 2010, 07:34:54 AM
Radi bi si ogledali cerkev...
 :)
Work would have reflected cerkev?!

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #12 on: September 30, 2010, 07:45:29 AM
Radi bi si ogledali cerkev...
 :)

Have you looked at the church?  :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #13 on: September 30, 2010, 12:42:37 PM
Google translator sucks!

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #14 on: September 30, 2010, 02:47:20 PM
Personal Pronouns, revised

Jaz           first person, singular
Ti (informal) You informal, second person
Vi (formal)   You formal, second person
On            Third person, singular masculine
Ona           Third person, singular feminine
Ono           Third person, nueter or middle gender?

Mi            We, first person plural
Vi            You, second person plural, both formal and informal?
Oni           Third person, plural (if at least one masculine item in the group???)
One         (if all female items in the group?)

Yes these are all right! And yes Oni - if at least one masculine item and One - if all female items.

Hmm.... Could I say...?
Ono je klavir.
It is a piano.

Mi smo glasbeniki.







So vi as a plural you is both formal and informal?


biti = to be   conjugated

singular...
Jaz sem
Ti ste
Vi ste
On je
Ona je
Ono je

plurals...
Mi smo
Vi ste (for both formal and informal???)
Oni so (if at least one masculine item in the group???)
One so (if all female items in the group?)



Jaz sem glasbenik.
Ti ste glasbenik.   ???  Or would that change if I was talking to a female?  glasbenika?

Mi smo glasbeniki.
Well... actually: Ono je klavir. doesn't even seem so wrong :) even though... klavir is male word, so you would have to say: On je klavir.   :-\ but that sounds kinda even more funny  :) Cause it sounds like you are saying that a person is a piano  :) .... well... I think people would just say: To je klavir. (this is a piano, if they wanted to say It is a piano).

Yes Vi as a plural is both formal and informal, all the same.

And yes: it's Ti si (like tsveti said).... (not Ti ste) :)
others are all right.... and yes: Vi ste (for formal an informal)
and Oni so (if there's at least one male)
and One so (if there are all females)

Jaz sem glasbenik. (is right) and if you want to say you are a musician to a female it's... Ti si glasbenica. (im not sure why it's -ca not -ka, but that's the way it is :) sometimes it's -ca in the end and sometimes it's also -ka at the and for female).


Plural is three or more?  That's different than anything I've seen.  So you would have singular, pairs, and then 3+plural?


For names, do you actually say I am _(name)__, or would you say something more like "They call me __(name)___."?

Da (is that yes?), hvala (thank you?).  Lahko noč.
:) yes I know that's something special about my language :) that we have singular and plural and also that for pairs :) and it would be like:

Midva sva
Vidva sta
Onadva sta (if at least one is male)
Onedve sta (if both are female)

it's like plural Mi, Vi , Oni, One ... except you add "dva" which means two.

For names you usually just say like: I am Littletune. Jaz sem.... No you wouldn't say they call me.... well i mean you could say it, but it would be kinda unusual. You could also say My name is.... (Moje ime je..... ) or (Ime mi je... ) but I think usually you just say I am (Jaz sem... )

Da means yes... but.... when people talk or a lot of times even when they write they don't say : da.... but we just say : ja.... (you say it like: ya or yah... it's like a german ja). But in books and dictionaries it says ... da..... but noone really says that for real.... :-\, sounds kinda weird and old.... :)
yes : hvala means thank you :)   Prosim :) that means (you're welcome ) :) (you can also say: Ni za kaj :) but prosim is easier I think :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #15 on: September 30, 2010, 02:58:55 PM
Radi bi si ogledali cerkev...
 :)
Where did you learn that? :)
Well if you would translate it exactly it would mean: We would like to see the church :)

oh and yes google translator does suck!  :P well sometimes it's really funny, cause you get some really stupid sentences  ;D

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #16 on: October 01, 2010, 01:44:07 AM
That's not too bad. 

Midva sva  = We/Us two are...  [which sounds odd in English]
Vidva sta  = You two are...
Onadva sta (if at least one is male) = Those/them two are...
Onedve sta (if both are female) = Those/them two are...

it's like plural Mi, Vi , Oni, One ... except you add "dva" which means two.


My name is.... (Moje ime je..... ) or (Ime mi je... )

yes = da, but people actually say ja



hvala means thank you   

Prosim   = you're welcome
Ni za kaj  = you're welcome





Let's see....

Jaz sem Bob.   Ti si ne Bob.  Jaz sem Bob!      <-- Use of 'not' correct here?
Ti si Littletune.  Jaz sem ne Littletuen.  Jaz sem Bob.  Midva sva Bob in Littletune.   (??? 'in' is Slovenian for 'and?')  Mi smo Bob, Littletuen, in Birba.

Jaz sem glasbeniki.    <--- Does Slovenian use indefinite articles, like 'a' and 'an?'

Pravi?   (Correct?)   

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #17 on: October 01, 2010, 01:44:51 PM
No it's not too bad! :)

Prosim means you're welcome yes :) and it also means: please. It's the same word for you're welcome and please :)
And if you would translate: "ni za kaj" exactly in English it would be: not for what  ;D ni (not), za (for), kaj (what)  :P


Let's see....

Jaz sem Bob.   Ti si ne Bob.  Jaz sem Bob!      <-- Use of 'not' correct here?
Ti si Littletune.  Jaz sem ne Littletuen.  Jaz sem Bob.  Midva sva Bob in Littletune.   (??? 'in' is Slovenian for 'and?')  Mi smo Bob, Littletuen, in Birba.

Jaz sem glasbeniki.    <--- Does Slovenian use indefinite articles, like 'a' and 'an?'

Pravi?   (Correct?)   

Hvala. Lahko noč.

Well the word "ne" means no. So you wouldn't say: Ti si ne Bob. (because that would be like saying You are no Bob.) But you have to say: Ti nisi Bob. (you just add "ni" before "si" :) )
And the same for I am not Littletune :) Can you figure out by yourself how you would say that  :)  :P It's not: Jaz sem ne Littletune. But..... do you know? :)

Yes "in" in Slovenian means and :) so that was correct :) (except in Slovenian we almost never write a ", " before "in" (and).

It's : Jaz sem glasbenik. (without "i") because if you put an i at the end of the word it's like when you add s in English. It's plural. And no we don't have words like "a" or "an".

Pravi means real (or something like that). You could say "prav" which would mean something like "ok" or "right". Correct would be: "pravilno".

Ni za kaj :) Lep dan! :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #18 on: October 01, 2010, 01:59:46 PM
Where did you learn that? :)
Well if you would translate it exactly it would mean: We would like to see the church :)


Well I have twice been there, so I bought a little phrase book. I remember that one lady at a campsite laughed really hard because I asked her "Govorite nemčija" instead of "govorite nemško"

Hee hee ;D

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #19 on: October 01, 2010, 02:05:52 PM
Well as I have twice been there, so I bought a little phrase book. I remember that one lady at a campsite laughed really hard because I asked her "Govorite nemčija" instead of "govorite nemško"

Hee hee ;D

That's funny  ;D It's like you would say: Do you speak Germany  ;D

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #20 on: October 02, 2010, 12:59:14 AM
Prosim = You're welcome, please


"ni za kaj" literally means 'not for what'   ni (not), za (for), kaj (what)  

"ne" means no


??? Is 'ni'  not in English?

ni = not?
ex. Ti nisi Bob.


Jaz nisem Little.  Jaz sem Bob.


Slovenians don't last comma in a group of three.  A, B, and C.  <-- -would be wrong.  Solvenians would use A, B and C.  Either way is correct in English (and it's argued about).

No indefinite articles (a, an) in Slovenian.

Prav = ok, right (less formal?)
Pravilno = correct
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Jaz sem glasbenik.  Midva sva (for two) glasbeniki.  Jaz nisem klavir.
Pravilno?  Hvala.


Let's see what I remember...

Jaz sem
Ti si
Vi ste

On je   ???
Ona je   ???
Ono je  ???

Mi sva
Vi something... ???
Oni somthing
One something

pairs...
Midva sva
Vidva something???
Onidva something...
Onedva something...


I'll have to check back later.





Oh, and what is  "Lep dan!"

And what is 'what?'  Then I can ask  'what is...?'
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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #21 on: October 02, 2010, 12:24:39 PM
Živjo Bob! :) (that's Hi Bob)

Yes "ni" is like not in English.
Yes: Ti nisi Bob. and: Jaz nisem Littletune. is exactly right!!!!! :)
Yes that's what we learn in school :) that you don't put a comma before and (in) (I couldn't remember yesterday what's a , called :) ) So yes it's like A, B and C.
Oh maybe I should tell you that if you say Hi is not, or she is not or it is not... You don't add "ni" to "je" (so it's not: on nije... ) but you just leave the "je" out. So you just say: On ni... or Ona ni...
But for all others you always put together ni and sem, si, smo, ste, sva, ste.

Yes: prav (is less formal) and: pravilno (is more formal).

Yes: Jaz sem glasbenik. (pravilno :) ), but: Midva sva glasbenika. You put "a" in the end of the word for a pair. So: singular is: glasbenik, plural is: glasbeniki, pair is: glasbenika.
(plural: you add "i" at the end of the word. Pairs: you add "a" at the end of the word).
Jaz nisem klavir. Je pravilno! :)
Prosim :)

Oh you did a test of what you remember :) cool :) Well I think you remember a lot!  8)
All the singular is correct :) - pravilno! (on je, ona je, ono je is right).

Then the plural:
Mi smo
Vi ste
Oni so
One so
(smo, ste, so) :)

Pairs:
Midva sva (pravilno! :) )
Vidva sta
Oh sorry I know why you got this two a little wrong, it's cause I said that you always just add "dva" to (mi, vi, oni, one)... I didn't think that this one was a little different... (don't know why it's different  :-\ ), but it's not: onidva, it's: onadva, I guess "i" before "dva" changes into "a"  :-\ I think maybe because of the way you say it.... cause it's easier to say onadva. Well sorry cause I didn't think of that before  :-[ I hope it's not too confusing! So:
Onadva sta  and also:
Onedve sta
Onadva!! Onedve!! (you see it's like: onadva, onedve, it kinda rhymes or something  :) )
(and just: sva (for midva),and :sta (for all others))

"lep" means beautiful, "dan" means day.... If you say: Lep dan! It's like you would say something like: Have a nice day! in English :)

And what is.... remember: Ni za kaj... :) (not for what :) )..... kaj je.....
Lep dan! :) :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #22 on: October 02, 2010, 04:10:38 PM
ni = not
ne = no

No 'ni' when used with third person he or she. 
 just leave the "je" out. So you just say: On ni... or Ona ni...
But for all others you always put together ni and sem, si, smo, ste, sva, ste.



Yes: prav (is less formal) and: pravilno (is more formal).




Midva sva glasbenika. You put "a" in the end of the word for a pair. So: singular is: glasbenik, plural is: glasbeniki, pair is: glasbenika.
??? Pairs have an a at the end?  Yes, I see. 
so...
Nouns, singulars are no end?  At least for male -- Any special ending for a female singular noun? A noun by itself, no adjective.
Plural nouns = -i for at least one male in group.  -e for all female.    Provilno? ???



Pairs again...
Midva sva
Vidva sta
onadva sta
onedve sta


lep = beautfiul
dan = day



Ja.  Hvala.  Lep dan!

 
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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #23 on: October 02, 2010, 07:40:57 PM
I hope I know right what a noun is  :-[  :P a noun is like: piano, musician, instrument.... right? Well if that's what you mean then yes male nouns don't have an ending.... and female nouns usually have an "a" at the end..... And if you have a male noun like glasbenik (musician), then the "k" turns into "c" so you get glasbenica. But it's not always the same. I can give you some examples:
teacher is: učitelj (for a male), učiteljica (for female)
pianist is: pianist (male), pianistka (female)
composer: skladatelj (male), skladateljica (female)
so you see it's usually -ica or -ka at the end for female. I think there is probably a rule for when you add -(i)ca and when -ka.... and why "k" in glasbenik (and other words like that) changes into "c" but I don't like the rules so much so I'm not sure....  :-\
Yes for plural nouns it's usually -i at the end for male and -e for female. Pravilno! :)

Prosim. :) In lahko noč! :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #24 on: October 02, 2010, 07:47:42 PM
Just taking more notes....

male nouns don't have an ending

 female nouns usually have an "a" at the end
usually -ica or -ka at the end for female


teacher is: učitelj (for a male), učiteljica (for female)

pianist is: pianist (male), pianistka (female)
composer: skladatelj (male), skladateljica (female)


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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #25 on: October 02, 2010, 10:57:53 PM
I hope I know right what a noun is  :-[  :P a noun is like: piano, musician, instrument.... right? Well if that's what you mean then yes male nouns don't have an ending.... and female nouns usually have an "a" at the end..... And if you have a male noun like glasbenik (musician), then the "k" turns into "c" so you get glasbenica. But it's not always the same. I can give you some examples:
teacher is: učitelj (for a male), učiteljica (for female)
pianist is: pianist (male), pianistka (female)
composer: skladatelj (male), skladateljica (female)
so you see it's usually -ica or -ka at the end for female. I think there is probably a rule for when you add -(i)ca and when -ka.... and why "k" in glasbenik (and other words like that) changes into "c" but I don't like the rules so much so I'm not sure....  :-\
Yes for plural nouns it's usually -i at the end for male and -e for female. Pravilno! :)

Prosim. :) In lahko noč! :)

Zabavno gledati kako Slovenka uči ljude pričati slovenski. :) Pozdrav susedi is Hrvatske. :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #26 on: October 03, 2010, 01:03:12 AM
Zabavno gledati kako Slovenka uči ljude pričati slovenski. :) Pozdrav susedi is Hrvatske. :)
I got Slovenka is a female, probably female Slovenian is my guess.
Slovenski.... I'm guessing is the nationality, as an adjective. 

I can pick out a little more than before. 

Jaz sem Bob. 
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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #27 on: October 03, 2010, 10:14:15 AM
I got Slovenka is a female, probably female Slovenian is my guess.
Slovenski.... I'm guessing is the nationality, as an adjective. 

I can pick out a little more than before. 

Jaz sem Bob. 

You got everything correct. :)
Nice to meet you, Bob, ja sam Ante. :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #28 on: October 03, 2010, 11:44:06 AM
Zabavno gledati kako Slovenka uči ljude pričati slovenski. :) Pozdrav susedi is Hrvatske. :)

Lep pozdrav iz Slovenije na Hrvaško! :)

I got Slovenka is a female, probably female Slovenian is my guess.
Slovenski.... I'm guessing is the nationality, as an adjective.  

I can pick out a little more than before.  

Jaz sem Bob.  

Bob just so you won't get confused... that wasn't Slovenian. Avetma is from Croatia. That is our neighbour country. And we don't speak the same language, but it is a lot alike. So you see if you learn some Slovenian then you can also understand some Croatian :) Cause we have a lot of words that are alike :)  

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #29 on: October 03, 2010, 12:13:34 PM
Ok this is kinda weird!! I'm trying to edit something about my last post and it just won't let me  :o . Because it should say: Lep pozdrav i z Slovenije.... (not is Slovenije....) and I'm trying to change that and it just doesn't change and I have tried it really a lot of times already!!!  :o And then I tried changing something else and it did change....  :-\ Oh well.... I don't know..... funny!  :)

Ok.... again!!!! it says here is Slovenije too!!! why won't it let me write i z Slovenije.... ??    zzzzzz not sss!!!

so you can't write is? but u can write i z ?  why is that?
does anyone know why you can't write i z together? (it just changes it into is..... ??? so weird! )

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #30 on: October 03, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
Hahaha I can imagine why.  ;D
There is another forum with a very specific language called "da lingo"  ;D
Some people from there are also members here and started to use this "lingo" excessively.
So the admin of pianostreet installed a sort of censorship software which changes certain words and combinations...of course this is supposed to work for English and might have unintended side-effects when applied to Slovenian.
For instance I write:

This iz weird

And it corrects:

This is weird

Now how did I do this? You will see it when you click on "quote"  ;)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #31 on: October 03, 2010, 01:05:36 PM
So let's try:

Lep pozdrav iz Slovenije

Yep it works :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #32 on: October 03, 2010, 01:09:26 PM
Hahaha I can imagine why.  ;D
There is another forum with a very specific language called "da lingo"  ;D
Some people from there are also members here and started to use this "lingo" excessively.
So the admin of pianostreet installed a sort of censorship software which changes certain words and combinations...of course this is supposed to work for English and might have unintended side-effects when applied to Slovenian.
For instance I write:

This iz weird

And it corrects:

This is weird

Now how did I do this? You will see it when you click on "quote"  ;)
Thanks Wolfi!  :P  :) Hmm so you change the size of letters but you don't really  :-\  :P  :)
I have to try iz
I never really knew how to change size of letters.

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #33 on: October 03, 2010, 01:13:19 PM
So let's try:

Lep pozdrav iz Slovenije

Yep it works :)

Yes it works! Cool!  8) But why doesn't it change the size of letters  :-\ oh well doesn't matter :)  :P It's good that this works!! :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #34 on: October 03, 2010, 01:16:58 PM
Yes it works! Cool!  8) But why doesn't it change the size of letters  :-\ oh well doesn't matter :)  :P It's good that this works!! :)

The size generator first puts the regular size. If you'd like to change it you need to fill in a different number before the "pt" Ouch that's huge :P  :o let's shrink it.

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #35 on: October 03, 2010, 01:24:25 PM
The size generator first puts the regular size. If you'd like to change it you need to fill in a different number before the "pt" Ouch that's huge :P  :o let's shrink it.
;D  ;D cool Wolfi   ;D Thanks!  :)

Bob se uči Slovenščino.  :P

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #36 on: October 03, 2010, 03:26:31 PM
You guys are so computer savvy, it makes me sick!  >:(

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #37 on: October 03, 2010, 05:49:28 PM
You guys are so computer savvy, it makes me sick!  >:(
Well you can ask if you don't know how to do something :) just like I did  :P and now I know how to make large letters!  :P  8)  :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #38 on: October 03, 2010, 06:47:21 PM
I can't even post a photo!

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #39 on: October 05, 2010, 02:39:45 PM
Bob did you get tired of learning Slovenian? :)  :P You need a break? Well if you want me to tell you something just ask ok? :)  :P

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #40 on: October 05, 2010, 04:08:07 PM
Just busier with some things.  I didn't want to make a lot of work for you either.

I need some nouns... maybe instruments?   and adjectives.... maybe colors?
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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #41 on: October 05, 2010, 05:13:54 PM
I was told that if one does not learn Slavic languages before they are twelve they will not be able to hear/pronounce certain sounds correctly and thereby always sound like a foreigner. It's different in Russian where you can learn it (as a friend of mine did) and even pass for a Russian in Moscow.
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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #42 on: October 05, 2010, 05:29:53 PM
Just busier with some things.  I didn't want to make a lot of work for you either.

I need some nouns... maybe instruments?   and adjectives.... maybe colors?

You should learn numbers as well  :) Little children start learning foreign language with numbers, colors and animals  ;) Just kidding, of course ;)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #43 on: October 05, 2010, 07:18:02 PM
Instruments would be cool I think, because most of them are at least a little like in English.
So: well you know: klavir already, then: kitara (guitar), violončelo (cello), kontrabas (double bass), violina (violin), bobni (drums) , flavta (flute), klarinet (clarinet), trobenta (trumpet), pozavna (trombone).... hmmm are there any other instruments you wanna know?

Colors: modra (blue), rumena (yellow), rdeča (red), roza (pink), vojolična (violet), zelena (green), črna (black), rjava (brown), bela (white), oranžna (orange), siva (gray).....

I could tell you numbers too:
1 ena
2 dva
3 tri
4 štiri
5 pet
6 šest
7 sedem
8 osem
9 devet
10 deset

If you wanna know something else just ask :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #44 on: October 05, 2010, 08:20:09 PM
Do the instruments tend to be male, female, or netuer?

And is there a typical way of ending adjectives for male, female, and netuer? 

And where do adjectives go, before or after the noun? 


If I wanted to say... I am a black piano.
Would it be...?
Jaz sem klavir črna. 
I don't know if klavir is masculine or feminine or netuer though.
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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #45 on: October 06, 2010, 07:28:45 PM
Well instruments can be male, female or neuter, but you can see what it is by the way a word ends. Most of the times if it ends with - a it's female, if it ends with - o (or - e) neuter, and if it ends with other letters it's male. Like this:
male: klavir, kontrabas, klarinet...
female: kitara, violina, flavta, trobenta, pozavna
neuter: violončelo
(and bobni, drums, are plural)
so you see it's really easy. If there is "a" at the end it's almost always female.

Adjectives go before the noun.
And klavir is male. So you don't say "črna"... but you say črn. Just take away the a. When we say different colors we say all of the couors with a at the end because the word color (barva) is a female word. So when we say different colors we say like they were all female. But if you say it with a noun that's male you take away the a.
So you say: Jaz sem črn klavir. And if you would say I am a black violin. you would say: Jaz sem črna violina.
You see it's really easy :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #46 on: October 07, 2010, 09:25:21 PM
Just collecting more notes...
instruments -- could be male, fem, or neuter.

nouns
males, maybe ends in a hard consonant sound?  Just ends.
female, ends in -a
neuter, ends in -o or -e

male: klavir, kontrabas, klarinet
female: kitara, violina, flavta, trobenta, pozavna
neuter: violončelo

bobni, drums, are plural


???  ? č is a "shh" sound?


barva = color, f


Adjectives go before the noun.
fem adjs - have -a ending



Oi... I need more practice on this.  I'd like to get "to have" verbs though. 


??? ? How to do the accent over the c?  Inverted carrot...

010D with alt-x is the character in Word.  It's a Latin small letter c with carrot.  Except it's an inverted carrot I would say.



So.... Some practice.

Jaz sem Bob.  Jaz nisem (?) Littletune.  Littletune je Littletune.   
... Ja, I think nisem is right, the ni part.

Jaz nisem klavir. Jaz nisem črn klavir.  Jaz nisem črn Bob.

Jaz sem glasbenik.   

What is 'also' in Slovenian?
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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #47 on: October 07, 2010, 09:50:56 PM


Imam

to have = ?

Jaz   ... Imam         
Ti    .. imi ??
Vi    ... Imate
On     .. ima
Ona    .. ima   
Ono    ... ima ??

Mi     .. imamo
Vi      ... imate       
Oni, One  ... Imajo, imaje ??

pairs...
Midva ... Imadva  ??
Vidva .... Imatva  ??
Onadva ... imadva ??
Onedve ... imadva ??
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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #48 on: October 08, 2010, 01:25:14 PM
Your signature is cool Bob!  :P  8)

č is a ch sound. Like.... "much" in English.
But I don't know how you write a č if you don't have it on your computer keyboard. Because we have the letter č on computer keyboard of course.  :-\ You can just copy it from somewhere, that's what I do with German letters that we don't have... but it takes longer of course  :-\ I mean if you can't get it you can just write c instead of č... that's what we do when we write on mobile phones or something like that....

Yes "nisem" je pravilno! :) correct!  :)

also is: tudi ... in Slovenian.


Wow Bob you got a lot of these right!  8)
to have = imeti

Jaz imam .... pravilno!
Ti imaš ..... (š is a sh sound.)
Vi imate .... pravilno!
On, ona, ono ima   .... pravilno!

Mi imamo ....... pravilno!
Vi imate ......... pravilno!
Oni, one imajo  ..... (just "imajo" for both the same)

Midva imava
Vidva imata
Onadva imata
Onedve imata
(only for "midva" is different, for all others is the same)
 :)

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Re: Bob learns some Slovenian with Littletune
Reply #49 on: October 08, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
More notes...


č is a ch sound. Like.... "much" in English.

š is a sh sound



also = tudi


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to have = imeti
Jaz imam
Ti imaš
Vi imate
On, ona, ono ima

Mi imamo
Vi imate
Oni, one imajo

Midva imava    (only difference for pairs is midva with -va end)
Vidva imata
Onadva imata
Onedve imata
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