Was the piece composed before the composer's marriage?
In regard to the modified rules.
I agree with most of them. Here are some thoughts on the question of penalties:
Xvinbi has suggested:
1. After three "no's", the poster is out.
1. If someone makes a guess what the piece is with title and opus number, and it's wrong, the person is out immediately. I think the idea is to slowly hone in on the piece with intelligent questions, until it becomes clear what it is. That requires pieces that have some "handles" to them
I completely agree with the rationale behind these penalties. But I think them a bit harsh. Because there are at the moment only 4 – 5 players, such harshness may result in the game stopping for lack of players. I would replace them with the following:
Any player can ask as many questions as s/he wants, however if the name of the piece or the name of the composer is (wrongly) mentioned, after three “nos” s/he is out of the game.
For instance:
“is the piece Papillons”, (No)
“is the piece by Schumann” (No)
“is the piece Moonlight sonata by Beethoven”,(No)
The player is out of the game. However
“is the name of the piece insect related” (No)
“is the piece by someone who studied law in Leipzig”(No)
“is the piece by a deaf composer whose title was chosen by his editor” (No)
The player is still on..
So, as long as the name of the piece or of the composer is not (wrongly) mentioned in the question, no penalty results.
2. Amendment 45: If a guessee gives the wrong answer to a guesser's question and therefore utterly confuses and misleads the guesser, the guessee will have to retrieve all pencils that have fallen into his/her piano and eat their erasers.
I would replace that with:
If a guessee gives the wrong answer to a guesser's question and therefore utterly confuses and misleads the guesser, the guessee will have to miss a round, that is, he must win two games to be allowed to be the riddler again.
So here is a summary (if everyone agrees, then these rules are into effect for the next game – they can always be changed if they don't work):
1. Only pieces for piano solo, or pieces where the piano plays an important part (e.g. Piano concertos, piano trios, etc.)
2. Only mainstream repertory (no obscure composers, or pieces like Scarlatti sonatas who number 555 unless it is a well known sonata amongst the 555)
3. Only one question per player (A player can only ask another question after being answered)
4. Only yes or no questions.
5. A player can at any moment in the game ask one and only one cryptic statement from the riddler by asking: “Can I please have a cryptic statement?”. The riddler can choose if his/her statement will concern the composer (if it has not been explicitly and correctly mentioned by name yet) or the piece.
3. Penalties:
a. Any player can ask as many questions as s/he wants, however if the name of the piece or the name of the composer is mentioned, after three “nos” s/he is out of the game (e.g. “is the piece Papillons”, “is the piece by Schumann” and “is the piece Mppnlight sonata by Beethoven”, if wrong and asked by the same player would lead to him/her being excluded from the game. However if the player had asked: “is the name of the piece insect related”, “is the piece by someone who studied law in Leipzig” and “is the piece by a deaf composer whose title was chosen by his editor”, that is all right). So, as long as the name of the piece or of the composer is not mentioned in the question, no penalty results.
b. If the riddler gives the wrong answer to a guesser's question and therefore utterly confuses and misleads the guesser, the riddler will have to miss a round, that is, s/he must win two games before s/he is allowed to be the riddler again.
Finally: After this game, can we start the next one on a new thread? This one is taking a while to load…
Best wishes,
Bernhard.
Topic: Riddle Game 4 and up