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Offline Steffen Fahl

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Bach Toccata D-Major (performed traditional)
on: October 05, 2010, 08:49:22 PM
To show what my incredible Prof. managed to make out of a rotten piano-punk I will ad here another recording from the 80th on the same dumb wodden grand piano at my Musikhochschule, for you might at least think about my pianoprof not as bad,
as you will think about me after listening the Bartok studies ;-)
But I confess I even loved this Bachpiece and I still do.
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Re: Bach Toccata D-Major (performed traditional)
Reply #1 on: October 06, 2010, 03:23:45 PM
i liked that very much!  With all it's imperfections, it was so musically played.  the beginning of the adagio was especially moving.  I'm sure with your computer knowledge, you could fix up the fugue, but who cares?  It was pure joy to listen to!  Despite that out of tune conservatory piano.  ;D

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Re: Bach Toccata D-Major (performed traditional)
Reply #2 on: October 06, 2010, 04:55:09 PM
i liked that very much!  With all it's imperfections, it was so musically played.  the beginning of the adagio was especially moving.  I'm sure with your computer knowledge, you could fix up the fugue, but who cares?  It was pure joy to listen to!  Despite that out of tune conservatory piano.  ;D
Oh no! thats the limit where I tend to become fundamentalist. A live recording is a live recording and a midiprogramming is a midiprogramming.
I dont have any intention to mingle both up. Better I confess: yes there are imperfections enough since I am nothing extraordinary on the piano and already satisfied if anyone likes something I do.
What I do now is what I do now, and what I have done in the 80th, is what I've done at that time. I am quite thankful that I had the chance to study with that extraordinary Pianoprof, and I am sure most of the good things that may succed in my computerattempts are founded in his musical education. But I will not "correct" what I've been or done to let it appeare to be more as it really is.
but thank you alot for your kind remarks
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Re: Bach Toccata D-Major (performed traditional)
Reply #3 on: October 06, 2010, 06:26:40 PM
Why the heck are you wasting your time with all that midi stuff? ::)

But okay, perhaps you really pulled our leg and all was just a big advert. Perhaps your intention was to make us wanty to hear your real playing... ;D  8)... Or perhaps you don't realise how good you are...   :o  :)

Honestly, as I listen I think in all probability it's the latter...

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Re: Bach Toccata D-Major (performed traditional)
Reply #4 on: October 06, 2010, 06:43:03 PM
Why the heck are you wasting your time with all that midi stuff? ::)

But okay, perhaps you really pulled our leg and all was just a big advert. Perhaps your intention was to make us wanty to hear your real playing... ;D  8)... Or perhaps you don't realise how good you are...   :o  :)

Honestly, as I listen I think in all probability it's the latter...
I still believe there are also some guys who like the haydn (20 000 Hits the last 3/4 Year) for instance I recorded half and half (played and midi edited), the Nicodé (totally midi) or other midi recordings. So give me a bit time and dont totally close your ears for what might follow.
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Re: Bach Toccata D-Major (performed traditional)
Reply #5 on: October 06, 2010, 07:08:24 PM
wow, beautiful playing. i like it very much. it breaths! it is so gratifyingly human - and that's what is missing in your pianosamples, which i am sure, can sound more real with the advancement of technology plus technique - but they resemble, at best, perfect wax statues, which never bleed!
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Re: Bach Toccata D-Major (performed traditional)
Reply #6 on: October 06, 2010, 07:28:55 PM
wow, beautiful playing. i like it very much. it breaths! it is so gratifyingly human - and that's what is missing in your pianosamples, which i am sure, can sound more real with the advancement of technology plus technique - but they resemble, at best, perfect wax statues, which never bleed!
OK
I've got it.
My next midiinterpretation will be full of "blood, sweat and tears" I'll promise you! ;)
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Re: Bach Toccata D-Major (performed traditional)
Reply #7 on: October 06, 2010, 09:54:34 PM
OK
I've got it.
My next midiinterpretation will be full of "blood, sweat and tears" I'll promise you! ;)
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No midi can ever be full of blood sweat and tears :P

Offline Steffen Fahl

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Re: Bach Toccata D-Major (performed traditional)
Reply #8 on: October 06, 2010, 10:56:22 PM
No midi can ever be full of blood sweat and tears :P
Oh, did you ever heard my metal version of Paganinis Capriccio Nr.24
pure and bloody sample-midi 8)
listen and try to repeat this sentence again without blushing! ;D
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Re: Bach Toccata D-Major (performed traditional)
Reply #9 on: October 06, 2010, 11:07:16 PM
Oh, did you ever heard my metal version of Paganinis Capriccio Nr.24
pure and bloody sample-midi 8)
listen and try to repeat this sentence again without blushing! ;D
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Re: Bach Toccata D-Major (performed traditional)
Reply #10 on: October 07, 2010, 01:01:56 AM
It's too bad fahls sampled music resembles nothing that the musicality of this recording presents us.

You notice people like these real recordings, but your samples are not so embraced. Hopefully that makes you realize that recordings of real piano are much more musically appreciated than any of your samples which are void of musical intelligence in my opinion.

With regards to the bottom since I don't want to bump the thread, I don't like the Liszt because it is so obvious it is musically incorrect. Too bad you have a professional musician and teacher here saying that it is rubbish, but only because you proclaim it to be better than traditional musicians, a comment you have never retracted from you samples which is just musically blasphemous. You constantly circle around the argument, "If you present a recording of your own or if only you knew blah blah blah" as if you know me.  I already used Arrau to prove that your ideas where very much a novice approach so now there is no more need to highlight how wrong they are if you cannot see it from this master then probably there will be difficulty to see it in any other. We could do the same with every single other sample of yours, but why waste our time?
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Re: Bach Toccata D-Major (performed traditional)
Reply #11 on: October 07, 2010, 04:33:02 AM
Thanks lostindlewonder,
Thanks for eliminating the previuosly inacceptable postings.
It is a promising goal to to strive as hard as I can to make what I do so musically, that even you might recognize, that it is me and not the machine who shapes the music. I've never pretended any extraordinary kind of perfection for the things I did more than that I tried to work as musical reasonable I could, if you dont like the Liszt it is a pity, I dont know if you ever tried any of those Haydn sonatas which come the musical style of Bach much nearer but at least there are even in some of thoses fine ears at pianostreet signs that indicates that one at least can improve the musicality even of my midiinterpretations as I do. So perhaps one time even you might listen to any recording i produced delightedl just because it speaks to your soul. At least that seem to me a promising goal.    :)
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fahl5
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