The Ultimate Piano Concerto Cadenza!!!

[orangesodaking]

Prokofiev 2's cadenza is insane, but I think this one may be every bit as spectacular and fiery:

Especially that part at 3:01... I fell off my chair laughing when I heard that part.

On a sidenote, the Mozart D minor cadenza is pretty interesting, too:

(Similar technique at 1:12)

But what do you guys think?

[perfect_pitch]

Don't worry - checking the video in YouTube answered my question - Trust ALKAN to write something like that.

[orangesodaking]

Haha! I actually think Alkan is overrated in difficulty for the most part... And his slower works are overshadowed by the bigger ones. 

[thalbergmad]

Haha! I actually think Alkan is overrated in difficulty for the most part... And his slower works are overshadowed by the bigger ones. 

Indeed, he appears to have been taken over by dweebs that are only interested in difficulty and "insaneness".

For my part, I think his most beautiful work is the nocturne Op.22 which I consider to be Chopin level.

Thal

[ronde_des_sylphes]

Prokofiev 2's cadenza is insane, but I think this one may be every bit as spectacular and fiery:

Especially that part at 3:01... I fell off my chair laughing when I heard that part.

I believe it I've played that cadenza on a piano course and people laughing at 3.01 was the exact reaction I got.

Ultimate cadenza, my nomination: 4th movement of the Busoni concerto.

[pianist1976]

Haha! I actually think Alkan is overrated in difficulty for the most part... And his slower works are overshadowed by the bigger ones.  

Totally agree. For example the cantabile themes in his Concerto pour Piano Seul are just priceless (and beautiful).

Ultimate cadenza, my nomination: 4th movement of the Busoni concerto.

Mine goes to Tchaikovski 2nd Concerto 1st movement cadenza. Grandiose

[ahinton]

Ultimate cadenza, my nomination: 4th movement of the Busoni concerto.

I'll go along with that, especially since it's a part of the ultimate piano concerto!

Best,

Alistair

[orangesodaking]

Really good Alkan lyrical moments/pieces are:
-Concerto for Solo Piano 1st movement second theme
-Concerto for Solo Piano 2nd movement main theme (after intro)
-Sonate de Concert (Cello Sonata) 3rd movement main theme (after intro)
-Nocturne in B Major Op. 22 (a little more like John Field, the originator of the Nocturne instead of Chopin I think... But still beautiful nonetheless)
-Etude in G Major Op. 35 No. 3
-Etude in G Flat Major Op. 35 No. 10 (the more passionate sections especially!)
-Aime-Moi from Trois Morceaux Op. 15
-All the Barcarolles (38a/6, 38b/6, 65/6, 67/6, and 70/6)

Are you speaking of the extended cadenza from the 4th movement of Busoni's piano concerto?
(Another great one is the Ossia cadenza from Rach 3. I was reading through it a few times today and it's so good!)

[argerichfan]

Especially that part at 3:01... I fell off my chair laughing when I heard that part.

Well I too had a good laugh.  I remember reading years ago what Alkan had 'introduced' into his cadenza, so I wasn't caught completely off guard.   That said, I can't say it's one of Alkan's better works...

As for your comment above about the Rach 3 cadenza, it's certainly very impressive, but with all honesty, I really think the shorter cadenza works better in context. 

[orangesodaking]

You know he did that with the cadenza he wrote for the Mozart Concerto in D Minor and one of Mozart's symphonies too, right? 

(BTW I agree, there is so much more Alkan that I like more...)

[birba]

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say it beats Prokofiev's second, but it IS very impressive.  Are you sure it wasn't a midi-file?    Hamelin never ceases to amaze me.  I wasn't expecting that "quotation"  either and it really threw me! I'm not that familiar with Alkan's music, but this was really thrilling!

[orangesodaking]

BUMP!  

EDIT: fixed.

There are very nice moments in this! I do personally think a couple could use a tad more confidence, but it must be very stressful and under pressure to perform this, because it's much more exposed and all attention is especially on you than when you're playing along with the orchestra.

[birba]

send that again.  It didn't come out.

[pies]

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[retrouvailles]

So I jumped to the 3:00 mark in the first video, and I thought it was some sort of disklavier recording.  Turns out it's just Hamelin.  This only reaffirms my belief that Hamelin is a horrible pianist.

My vote is for Synaphai:

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f. u. haters

gtfo

I vote for the cadenza in the second movement of Magnus Lindberg's piano concerto. You'll destroy your piano with that one.

[orangesodaking]

This only reaffirms my belief that Hamelin is a horrible pianist.

Well, if you listen to anyone play only virtuoso stuff (for example, only Alkan's or Liszt's fast music), you'll probably think of them to be mechanical. However, I encourage you to investigate Hamelin playing a wide variety of repertoire, such as the Chopin Ballades, Brahms 2nd concerto, Alkan Chants Op. 65, Liszt Sonata in B Minor, Beethoven Sonatas Op. 109 and 110, etc.

I liked the video you posted, by the way!

[camstrings]

Glenn Gould's cadenzas for Beethoven No. 1 are quite a light hearted take on virtuosity and manage to be a hommage to Bach & Schoenberg at the same time.

[birba]

BUMP!  

EDIT: fixed.

There are very nice moments in this! I do personally think a couple could use a tad more confidence, but it must be very stressful and under pressure to perform this, because it's much more exposed and all attention is especially on you than when you're playing along with the orchestra.

It's going to take a better musician and pianist to convince me of this potpourris.  
Hamelin sounds like a digital piano, but this one doesn't make sense at all.

[ch101]

tchai 1

[thalbergmad]

Is it your primary intention to irritate other members?

[pianoplayjl]

Rachmaninoff 3rd PC cadenza, 1st movement.