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Offline ted

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A serendipitous start to the year
on: January 04, 2011, 06:14:44 AM
I have rarely been satisfied with the endings to my improvisations or compositions. In part, it is probably a result of my old teacher, the New Zealand composer Llewelyn Jones. He repeatedly voiced the critical opinion that I must learn how to "round things off". I could never understand what he meant.

The last improvisation I recorded was in late September. On New Year's Day I recorded a more or less conventionally romantic improvisation and dared not listen to it for two days. To cut a long story short, I think I might have, in some vaguely personal sense, finally cracked the romantic conclusion - at least once.

Romantic improvisation of any impact is so impossibly difficult to bring off. Climax, anti-climax, ebb and flow, and nothing can be calculated else the lot goes down the drain in a caricature.

The final ten minutes or so of this greatly pleases me for some reason; how I wish Llew could hear it. Pardon my rare moment of fancy and introspection.
"Mistakes are the portals of discovery." - James Joyce

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Re: A serendipitous start to the year
Reply #1 on: January 04, 2011, 02:49:49 PM
I really liked it, but I kind of see what your teacher meant. It's like, imo, a new part begins before the old one is finished. I get the thing that you can't do a cadenza-ish thing before every ending, but now it's a bit rushed... Some times a feel like "Uhm, where did that come from?" Maybe that's what he meant.

But don't take this the wrong way, I would be really happy if I came up with an improvisation like this. So really good job :)

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Re: A serendipitous start to the year
Reply #2 on: January 04, 2011, 08:18:27 PM
Thanks for listening. I agree that my permanent infatuation with spontaneity and surprise, with every idea a springboard to another, to some extent precludes my completely understanding normal forms of any sort. For better or worse, I'm afraid that is the nature of the beast.

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a new part begins before the old one is finished

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where did that come from?

Very perceptive of you. That is exactly how it sounds.
"Mistakes are the portals of discovery." - James Joyce

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Re: A serendipitous start to the year
Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 05:49:19 AM
Hi Ted,

The thing I liked best in your improv was it's lush neo-romantic style.  You're so right, it's hard to maintain the nuances, the sighs, the surges and the breathless high peaks in this musical genre, but I do believe that you succeeded brilliantly with this one!  The ending worked well in my opinion.   

Thanks for sharing your recording.

David
Interpreting music means exploring the promise of the potential of possibilities.

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Re: A serendipitous start to the year
Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 07:46:00 AM
It's quite a flight, and it whisks into nothing (silence), which I think is a serendipitous start, and a wonderful conclusion.
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Re: A serendipitous start to the year
Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 08:52:32 AM
I liked it, and specifically the last 3-4 minutes and ending. It had that sense of a youthful scriabinism in it, in seed form.

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Re: A serendipitous start to the year
Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 05:13:33 AM
Ted, very beautiful.  Listening to you again is giving me a whole new sound-tapestry and it is very inspiring for me and helpful for me in feeling a fresh sense about improvising.  Thank you for this one, too!
"The greatest thing in this world is not so much where we are, but in what direction we are moving"  ~Oliver Wendell Holmes

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Re: A serendipitous start to the year
Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 09:43:17 AM
rachfan, m1469, furtwaengler and utterlsneaky:

Thank you for listening and for your interesting comments, which I shall take on board. I don't know if you are familiar with the symphonies of Havergal Brian, especially the late ones. He has this extraordinary feature where a burgeoning climax builds threateningly and then suddenly drops out of existence for some sort of unrelated prosaic phrase which trots on as if nothing had occurred. "Aaahh ! That little attack of wind has passed, let's keep walking." The first time I heard it I thought the score must have had a missing page, but it happens too often for that.

I didn't like it at first but now I love this endearing effect, which I often use in improvisation. Most people seem to listen to chords more than anything else but being the perverse creature I am, I am invariable struck primarily by rhythm, phrase and dynamics in somebody's musical personality.
"Mistakes are the portals of discovery." - James Joyce
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