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Offline john11inc

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Alistair's Corner
on: February 07, 2011, 06:40:16 PM
true.

I have made this special, little slice of pianostreet just for him.  All puns (the more horrible, the better) belong here.  I will start us off, much in Alistairian style.



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BARIUM.
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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #1 on: February 07, 2011, 07:00:42 PM
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Incorrect ellipsis syntax!  :o  ::)  ;D

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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #2 on: February 07, 2011, 07:19:05 PM
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Offline ahinton

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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #3 on: February 07, 2011, 08:59:10 PM
Très amusant, both of you! (though the extent to which it could form part of an entire thread incites grave doubt in these quarters!). For those daft enough to have sufficient interest in my shaving habits, I "forgot" to shave way back in the late 1970s when, on a trip to northern Norway (are you reading this, "mephisto"?, my electric (yes, I admit it!) shaver failed and there was nowhere within less than two days' drive to go get it repaired or buy a replacement, so the stubble began to appear and, by the time I returned to Scotland, I had gotten used to its presence, so I purchased a beard trimmer in Edinburgh and - er - the rest is - er - "history" (or at least it would have been so had such an utterly trivial matter been worthy of any kind of historical record).

For those who may not know (and could cre less - if any!), those photographs were taken in the aftermath of Jonathan Powell's world première in The Warehouse, London of my Sequentia Claviensis for piano (1993-94) -a  very fine performance indeed.

Best,

Alistair (having apparently been "cornered"!)...
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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #4 on: February 07, 2011, 09:19:09 PM
I had gotten used to its presence, so I purchased a beard trimmer in Edinburgh and - er - the rest is - er - "history" (or at least it would have been so had such an utterly trivial matter been worthy of any kind of historical record).


Facts like these are important. When you get around to publishing your memoirs, little trinkets like this will brighten things up a bit.

Thal
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Offline ahinton

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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #5 on: February 07, 2011, 09:34:53 PM
Facts like these are important. When you get around to publishing your memoirs, little trinkets like this will brighten things up a bit.
Sorry to disappoint you (if indeed I do so) on two counts, Thal. Firstly, I would ask why such "trinkets" would even need to "brighten up" what in the first place and, secondly, I have no intention of writing (still less having ghost-written for me à la Tony Bliar) my "memoirs", thanks all the same; apart from any other considerations, can't you just imagine how poorly they would sell by the side of Les Banjolibrariens de Fin-de-Graves replete with illustrations of wet, stormy weather in the Shetlands and the subject duly portrayed as un homme de largesse?

Mon Dieu! Life's a B(r)itch...

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Alexandre
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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #6 on: February 07, 2011, 10:39:22 PM
(are you reading this, "mephisto"?,

I certainly did ;)

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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #7 on: February 07, 2011, 11:34:58 PM
I certainly did ;)
Fine! I'm still (surely not unnaturally) less than keen to be stuck in a "corner", but not to worry! I hope that at least some of what I've done puts me outside of one...

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Alistair
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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #8 on: February 08, 2011, 01:15:01 PM
It's funny how when you read someone's words and opinions over a period of time in a website like this, not knowing what they are physically like, you sort of develop a picture of what they look like in your mind.  You look nothing like what I imagined...















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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #9 on: February 08, 2011, 02:08:25 PM
THE ADVENTURES OF "AHINTON"


Question: did you get permission from all people shown? If not, it would mean you are someone who does not hesitate to publish what seems a rather private photo of other people without their knowledge and/or consent.
In the long run, any words about music are less important than the music. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not worth talking to (Shostakovich)

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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #10 on: February 08, 2011, 02:27:30 PM
Question: did you get permission from all people shown? If not, it would mean you are someone who does not hesitate to publish what seems a rather private photo of other people without their knowledge and/or consent.

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=21716.msg239904#msg239904

In short, I think it's safe to say that the photo is in the public domain.

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Reply #11 on: February 08, 2011, 02:52:54 PM
I see.

My question then redirects to the original poster of the photo's, but it would seem, reading the thread attached, the answer to my question might be "yes".
Mind you, I posted the question because items posted may remain somewhere on the Internet until eternity. Something that applies to pictures and photographs too, utterly out of control of those in the pictures and photographs, and as such perhaps not to their liking or wishes. And who know what is done to or with these images. Hence my concern and associated question.

all best,
gep
In the long run, any words about music are less important than the music. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not worth talking to (Shostakovich)

Offline oxy60

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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #12 on: February 08, 2011, 04:43:40 PM
Well gep you may have a point.

I really don't know if people in a public place doing normal activities can claim privacy. After all there is a famous composer in the shot who could reasonably expect to be photographed. If one is at the same table, they should put a bag over their head if they are concerned.

"In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks."  John Muir  (We all need to get out more.)

Offline thalbergmad

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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #13 on: February 08, 2011, 07:22:44 PM
After all there is a famous composer in the shot who could reasonably expect to be photographed. If one is at the same table, they should put a bag over their head if they are concerned.

In this case, it would have been an improvement if the famous composer had.

Thal
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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #14 on: February 08, 2011, 09:15:55 PM
In this case, it would have been an improvement if the famous composer had.
That's not a very kind thing to say about Jonathan Powell, is it?

Now go put a bag over your banjo and behave in a civilised manner.

Best,

Alistair
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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #15 on: February 09, 2011, 06:57:47 AM
Well gep you may have a point.

I really don't know if people in a public place doing normal activities can claim privacy. After all there is a famous composer in the shot who could reasonably expect to be photographed. If one is at the same table, they should put a bag over their head if they are concerned.


I must disagree here. I know we live in a world where privacy is increasingly eroded, but I do not think that when someone is in a (small) public space it means they should be OK with having there photograph being published - without their consent or even knowledge - in a worldwide public space. People aren't public property the moment they leave their home.

all best,
gep
In the long run, any words about music are less important than the music. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not worth talking to (Shostakovich)

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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #16 on: February 09, 2011, 08:33:17 AM
I must disagree here. I know we live in a world where privacy is increasingly eroded, but I do not think that when someone is in a (small) public space it means they should be OK with having there photograph being published - without their consent or even knowledge - in a worldwide public space. People aren't public property the moment they leave their home.

I think we are entering into a fantasy land here. This is not a picture published in the Sun of William & Kate in the bath at the Dorchester, it is a well known composer, a stupendous pianist and unknown female in Pizza Hut after a concert.

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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #17 on: February 09, 2011, 08:41:44 AM
I think we are entering into a fantasy land here. This is not a picture published in the Sun of William & Kate in the bath at the Dorchester, it is a well known composer, a stupendous pianist and unknown female in Pizza Hut after a concert.
The female, far from being "unknown", is actually the Danish Lone Karlsson, sitting next to her husband, Danish pianist Jørgen Hald Nielsen - and no, indeed, that photograph has not appears in The Sun yet, as far as I am aware. The composer, however, did once feature on page 3 of The Sun...

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Alistair
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Reply #18 on: February 09, 2011, 12:47:13 PM
Phew, you had me worried for a minute, but then I realised that men are usually on page 7 of the Sun.

I see no reason why you should not be a "page 7 fella". Stubble appears to be back in fashion and you could tastefully drape yourself over your piano with a suitably placed Sorabji score.

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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #19 on: February 09, 2011, 01:25:08 PM
Stubble appears to be back in fashion
Which baffles me. Nature is strangely arranged; I can't stand stubble, let alone a beard, but no matter how often I shave it keeps growing back. Yet while I would like to keep the hair on my head, it keeps receding. Although scientists recently announced that bald(ing) men still have all the hairs on their head, you just can't see them. Well, that's a relief.... :P

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you could tastefully drape yourself over your piano with a suitably placed Sorabji score.
Is this wishfull thinking on your part? ;D

all best,
gep
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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #20 on: February 09, 2011, 01:57:59 PM
Phew, you had me worried for a minute, but then I realised that men are usually on page 7 of the Sun.

I see no reason why you should not be a "page 7 fella". Stubble appears to be back in fashion and you could tastefully drape yourself over your piano with a suitably placed Sorabji score.
Since I never look at The Sun (it's bad for the eyes do do this, as no doubt you know), I really couldn't say, but for all that I have little interest in being photographed for anything, I'd be perfectly happy to make an exception even for that rag if I were to be paid enough - oh, by the way, "stubble" has nothing to do with it and, if paid sufficient for such a photograph, I would be more than willing to shave off such as there is of it if asked. Somehow, however, I do not perceive an especially great likelihood that the majority of this "newspaper"'s readership will have the remotest interest in Sorabji...

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Alistair
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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #21 on: February 09, 2011, 02:37:08 PM
The photograph is not public domain, most likely.

Anyone in the photograph may feel free to provide proof of ownership and/or copyright to likeness of image and have the image removed, and subsequently sue the person who distributed it for all damages incurred.

That is the state of affairs.  Considering none of that is going to happen, let's get back to the puns, and despite Thal's involvement, let's please try to keep them tasteful; no sax and violins.

Or, in the spirit of the thread:

Let us please do try to keep them tasteful, if requesting such is not already in and of itself a defeated cause given what one may only assume to be the intended purpose of this thread (whether or not such a purpose is to be achieved is another question entirely, and that is not even to broach upon the subject of whether achieving it would necessarily prove worthwhile!  But it is not my place to speak on matters such as these with authority, despite a certain raccordement du nom between myself and this thread's rather specific title) - no sex and violence.  Or rather sax and violins, as one might be inclined to say...

Best,

John
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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #22 on: February 09, 2011, 02:48:20 PM
It's funny how when you read someone's words and opinions over a period of time in a website like this, not knowing what they are physically like, you sort of develop a picture of what they look like in your mind.  You look nothing like what I imagined...

What did you imagine he looked like? More serious?  :P And less friendly?  :D  :)

So is this thread so we can ask Alistair questions?  :P

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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #23 on: February 09, 2011, 03:02:46 PM
Which baffles me. Nature is strangely arranged; I can't stand stubble, let alone a beard, but no matter how often I shave it keeps growing back. Yet while I would like to keep the hair on my head, it keeps receding. Although scientists recently announced that bald(ing) men still have all the hairs on their head, you just can't see them. Well, that's a relief.... :P

all best,
gep
Yes I guess it must be like that :) that's just like if you look closely I have a moustache too  ;D you just can't really see it  :P ... but I have really A LOT of hair on my head! it's really difficult to comb my hair...  ::) a lot of times I break the teeth on my comb  :( and now I have some new hair growing on top of my head so it looks kinda funny cause these short hairs are sticking in the air at the top of my head!  :D  :)
Oh, if men never shaved would they have hair like all over their face?  :-\ Or just in places where they usually have moustache and beard?  :-\

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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #24 on: February 09, 2011, 03:25:44 PM
The photograph is not public domain, most likely.
I'm almost sure that it isn't.

Anyone in the photograph may feel free to provide proof of ownership and/or copyright to likeness of image and have the image removed, and subsequently sue the person who distributed it for all damages incurred.

That is the state of affairs.
Technically, yes.

Considering none of that is going to happen, let's get back to the puns, and despite Thal's involvement, let's please try to keep them tasteful; no sax and violins.
Of course none of that is going to happen and, since the photograph was taken more than four years ago, it would surely have done so before now if it were going to do so.

Why we should necessarily get back to puns - or indeed have any at all - here is less clear (to me, at least).

Even Thal's involvement is no guarantee of tastelessness.

As to your sax and violins reference, I will now find it hard not to recall it if ever I'm asked to compose a concerto for saxophone and strings!

Best,

Alistair
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Re: Alistair's Corner
Reply #26 on: February 10, 2011, 12:19:19 AM
OK, as far as it goes. Now what about public figures? If Joe Nobody is photographed shaking hands with Sam Somebody does Joe have any say in the use of the photograph as long as it isn't used to defame or embarrass?

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