Conservatoires

[thompson_321]

Which are the best conservatoires in the world, and which offer scholarships? I'm on a shoe string budget, and already studied, but really need a few more years in an institution. Or would I be better off just studying privately somewhere?

[caioramos]

Hey man!

Where do you live?

[prongated]

Always a subjective list, but here are, in my mind, some of the best;

Moscow Conservatory
Paris Conservatoire (Jacques Rouvier)
Hannover Hochschule für Musik (Arie Vardi)
Universität der Künste Berlin (Jacques Rouvier)
Escuela Superior de Música Reina Sofía (Bashkirov)
Julliard School (Robert McDonald)
Colburn Conservatory (John Perry)
Curtis Institute (Gary Graffman)
International Piano Academy Lake Como

I'm very sure they all offer scholarships! Good luck!

[thompson_321]

Hey man!

Where do you live?

North Wales.

[keyboardclass]

but really need a few more years in an institution.

Hey, don't we alll?

[richard black]

Hello Thompson_321 - any relation to russdaman?

[thalbergmad]

Interesting observation.

Surely there cannot be more than 2 pianists in North Wales. 10,000 sheep and a couple of hikers, but not 2 pianists.

Thal

[omar_roy]

This is a bit of a ridiculous topic.  There are conservatories that have excellent reputations, but at that level it matters more who you want to study with rather than the name of the school.  You could go to the Yale School of Music and study with Boris Berman and realize you might not like his teaching style and not benefit at all from it.

Find out who you want to study with.  A mentor who inspires you to work hard is just as important as your own desire to improve.  That means much more than any big-name conservatory.

[wyman]

North Wales.

Hey Thompson where in North Wales do you live?

[quantum]

You don't need to study in the best conservatories in the world in order to have top caliber music education.  All you need is a teacher that you can work with.  It also means you don't have to pay top money for a top institution, in order to get excellent education. 

[thompson_321]

You don't need to study in the best conservatories in the world in order to have top caliber music education.  All you need is a teacher that you can work with.  It also means you don't have to pay top money for a top institution, in order to get excellent education. 

Yes, but it is always an advantage being in an institution surrounded by fellow musicians and the best facilities.

[quantum]

You don't need to be in a brand name institution to be surrounded by good musicians.  The out of the way places you can find exquisite instruments is really surprising. 

[pianisten1989]

I think someone have trouble with being realistic. You can't really say on one hand that you want to go to the best conservatories in the world, and on the other hand, not being able to afford them.
Which do you see as the best in the world?
If you say Jilliard, Curtis, and RCM, you are very wrong. Germany have many very fine ones, which are very much cheaper. You have to learn german, but that's it. The Netherlands as well.
Don't only look into the obvious ones.

[countrymath]

You don't need to be in a brand name institution to be surrounded by good musicians. 

Yes, you need.

[thompson_321]

I think someone have trouble with being realistic. You can't really say on one hand that you want to go to the best conservatories in the world, and on the other hand, not being able to afford them.
Which do you see as the best in the world?
If you say Jilliard, Curtis, and RCM, you are very wrong. Germany have many very fine ones, which are very much cheaper. You have to learn german, but that's it. The Netherlands as well.
Don't only look into the obvious ones.

Which German schools can you suggest? I saw the Jorge Bolet Rach 3 masterclass with a student from Hanover. Are you familiar with any schools there?

[pianisten1989]

Well, Hannover, Köln, Hamburg... The winner of QEC 2007 was a student of Hamburg, and Hannover is a quite obvious pick... In the Netherlands there is Amsterdam, Hague and Utrecht, among others. Sergio Tiempo studied for Alan Weiss in Utrecht.

[samthegreat4]

I live in the Netherlands myself.
Hague is usually regarded as the conservatoire in Holland that has the highest piano level.

[viking]

Always a subjective list, but here are, in my mind, some of the best;

Moscow Conservatory
Paris Conservatoire (Jacques Rouvier)
Hannover Hochschule für Musik (Arie Vardi)
Universität der Künste Berlin (Jacques Rouvier)
Escuela Superior de Música Reina Sofía (Bashkirov)
Julliard School (Robert McDonald)
Colburn Conservatory (John Perry)
Curtis Institute (Gary Graffman)
International Piano Academy Lake Como

I'm very sure they all offer scholarships! Good luck!

You forgot one!

[quantum]

Yes, you need.

You may want, salivate, lust, or crave such, but you do not need it. 

[countrymath]

You may want, salivate, lust, or crave such, but you do not need it. 

XDDDD

[prongated]

Which do you see as the best in the world?
If you say Jilliard, Curtis, and RCM, you are very wrong. Germany have many very fine ones, which are very much cheaper. You have to learn german, but that's it. The Netherlands as well.
Don't only look into the obvious ones.

*shudders*

Really? Not from a sample I got of the festival I went to in Netherlands! Boring, pedantic, and academic in some of the worst sense of the words. And I hate how every accompaniment in chamber music has to be very soft. It's just not music making.

You forgot one!

Which one? Oh yeah...UofT! How can I forget that...best vending machine ever...

[quantum]

Which one? Oh yeah...UofT! How can I forget that...best vending machine ever...

 

Is there more than one music institution using that acronym?

[pianisten1989]

*shudders*

Really? Not from a sample I got of the festival I went to in Netherlands! Boring, pedantic, and academic in some of the worst sense of the words. And I hate how every accompaniment in chamber music has to be very soft. It's just not music making.

Well, I'm going to have a lesson with a teacher from Hague Academy. I tell you if he's any good

[prongated]

Well, I'm going to have a lesson with a teacher from Hague Academy. I tell you if he's any good

Paul Komen? I'd be curious - he's the guy I mainly worked with, and saw giving masterclasses last summer! Do share! I'd be interested to hear about Ellen Corver and Rian De Waal too...(I heard he's rather unwell these days though?)

[pianisten1989]

No, it's for Naum Grubert. But I'll tell you anyway!

[prongated]

No, it's for Naum Grubert. But I'll tell you anyway!

Oh yeah! Of course I would also be interested! Do share when you know!

[pwu]

I think Amsterdam conservatory the best for piano. Even better than The Hage because the pianoteachers in the hague also teach in amsterdam conservatory..  but the pianodepartment in amsterdam is bigger and more international.

My pianoteacher is Marcel Baudet. He teaches in Amsterdam, The Hague conservatory and also in London Yehudi Manuhin School.
He is the director of the Young Pianist Foundation.

[pianisten1989]

It's true that most teachers in the Hague lives in Amsterdam. However, The Hague is The Royal conservatory in the Netherlands. I'm just about to start my first year there, so I can't be certain, but it seems normal that The Royal Conservatory should have more income and better departments in total... But as I said, I don't know.

Though, I wouldn't say that it's the best in the world...

[pbryld]

It's true that most teachers in the Hague lives in Amsterdam. However, The Hague is The Royal conservatory in the Netherlands. I'm just about to start my first year there, so I can't be certain, but it seems normal that The Royal Conservatory should have more income and better departments in total... But as I said, I don't know.

Though, I wouldn't say that it's the best in the world...

Being the Royal something never matters. It just sounds fancy. Anyone who lives in a monarchy should know that. It does sound good on your resume though.

[worldpiano]

Hi,

so how ended the lesson with Naum Grubert?

And guys, maybe any of you have any information about Naum Grubert or Marcel Baudet as a teachers?Maybe someone studied with them and could tell some useful information?Thanks