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Chopin/Liszt (transcendental etudes/etudes) video/audio
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Topic: Chopin/Liszt (transcendental etudes/etudes) video/audio
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etudebasher
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Chopin/Liszt (transcendental etudes/etudes) video/audio
on: February 23, 2011, 11:35:29 AM
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Liszt: Transcendental Etude No. 10 S. 139 in F Minor
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birba
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Re: Chopin/Liszt (transcendental etudes/etudes) video/audio
Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 01:37:52 PM
Well, I had to laugh when I realized why you called yourself "etudebasher". I couldn't really understand the reason behind it. Now, I know!
I don't think I heard one piano (in the dynamic sense) in either etude. They both had a range of mf-ff, the latter being banged out rather then played. I would be curious to hear these on a bigger piano. You are trying to get much much more out of your piano then the poor guy is able to give you.
The problem with the Chopin, of course, is that there are tons of notes in the accompaniment to each single note in the melody. The former has to be much more light and subdued. there was a hint of a cresecendo in bar 35 when it goes to the coda - which was the best part of the whole etude. But in general, the stage that it's in now is no more then a finger excercise. Technically, this is one of the easier etudes - fingerwise - but it's extremely hard to get that right balance between melody and accompaniment. You were forced to bang out that pinky to make it heard over the arpeggios.
The best part of the Liszt f minor was the central accentuato ed appassionato. It really sounded passionate without the banging I heard in the rest of the etude. The opening bars are leggiero!!!! Put that same passionate surge you had so well later on, into these gasping syncopated figurations. You can do it! Then when the crescendo comes, you have room to swell.
Did you listen to yourself afterwards and are you really satisfied with the result?
You are a talented pianist, but from what I heard I don't know whether your musicianship is on the same level. But I'm curious to hear more.
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etudebasher
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Re: Chopin/Liszt (transcendental etudes/etudes) video/audio
Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 03:38:44 PM
"I don't think I heard one piano (in the dynamic sense) in either etude. They both had a range of mf-ff, the latter being banged out rather then played. I would be curious to hear these on a bigger piano. You are trying to get much much more out of your piano then the poor guy is able to give you. "
I dont usually practice at home because my piano isnt the best, it produces an overwhelming amount of sound for a room with such accustics, my tuner said it was a crap piano for such a room, so its quite hard to actually play quietly, i do have other recordings on other pianos, like one i did from a competition.
"The problem with the Chopin, of course, is that there are tons of notes in the accompaniment to each single note in the melody. The former has to be much more light and subdued. there was a hint of a cresecendo in bar 35 when it goes to the coda - which was the best part of the whole etude. But in general, the stage that it's in now is no more then a finger excercise. Technically, this is one of the easier etudes - fingerwise - but it's extremely hard to get that right balance between melody and accompaniment. You were forced to bang out that pinky to make it heard over the arpeggios.
The best part of the Liszt f minor was the central accentuato ed appassionato. It really sounded passionate without the banging I heard in the rest of the etude. The opening bars are leggiero!!!! Put that same passionate surge you had so well later on, into these gasping syncopated figurations. You can do it! Then when the crescendo comes, you have room to swell.
Did you listen to yourself afterwards and are you really satisfied with the result?"
Thanks for such a long detailed, explanation/advice, i really appreciate it
Nope not really, im never satisfied with what i listen to on my recordings.
"You are a talented pianist, but from what I heard I don't know whether your musicianship is on the same level. But I'm curious to hear more."
Cheers, i might post some other things, i am going to try to get access to the recording studio in my school so i can do it with a proper good quality.
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pianisten1989
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Re: Chopin/Liszt (transcendental etudes/etudes) video/audio
Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 04:15:45 PM
Let me get this right: You don't listen to your own recordings, because you aren't satisfied with what you hear?
Rule 1. record yourself - listen - change what you aren't happy with.
Why else would you record yourself?
And oh, there is a "quote"-button on the right top of every post. It's easier that do actually quote by yourself.
I agree with Birba. So I don't write anything else about that.
Just a question: Is it your tongue that comes out of your mouth, or is it just something with the recording? It looks weird...
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