Prokofiev Sonata 7 fingerings

[franz_]

What fingerings do you use in the 1st movement for the place somewhere in the middle section, a scale going up, where is written 'con brio'. (Boosey&Hawkes editions, page 62 at the bottom of the page.
It should be clear for everyone who played it.
It is a problem for me, and a mental problem as well. Everytime I arrive in tempo at this place, i *** up that passage cause something 'blocks' inside me.
Help? Advice? Someone

[jian10]

Is that roughly 10th page just before FF marcato?

If it is, try to avoid using thumb on the black keys.
Try #3123 1234 12 123 123 12 then you'll have #3 and 5 for E and G at the end.  Also you'll see there is a kind of pattern going on in this pasage.

[franz_]

Thanks man!
It needs to get into my fingers, but I've the impression it's more comfortable already. The beginning was more or less the same, but your end is better I believe, I used fifth finger on a#
Although, it feels more logic to me to end E en G on 1,5.
But this passage worked good for you?

If there are other suggestions or advice, I'm glad to hear them.

[franz_]

OK, I changed my mind; to end on 3,5 is indeed a good idea, to keep the 123 123 123 pattern.
Great.

[franz_]

AND, may I ask what you use in the left hand this passage?
I think a part of the problem is there as well.

[jian10]

AND, may I ask what you use in the left hand this passage?
I think a part of the problem is there as well.

The E octave can be staccato.  Start from G#, 5321 321 321 then use #2 & 5 for A# and E.  You can even connect B to A# and E with this fingering.

Are you studying this sonata by yourself?

[franz_]

The E octave can be staccato.  Start from G#, 5321 321 321 then use #2 & 5 for A# and E.  You can even connect B to A# and E with this fingering.

Are you studying this sonata by yourself?

Thanks! I'll give it a try.
No, I'm playing this sonata for a while already, I played it several times in concert, but this place always went wrong. for 50% due to bad fingerings I think.

[rob47]

i started this recently and have been messing with this fingering for the RH (starting on a#):

1234 1234 12345 12345

then just whack GE with 53
it's the sort of fingering i imagine prokofiev would have used

in my opinion anything is better than 121 for such a fast scale