Beethoven's Pathetique 2nd movement

[jazzhands56]

Any Tips On Fingering or just general Tips On Playing Pathetique   Many Thanks

[stevebob]

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[musicluvr49]

Hi.

I'll try my best to answer your question. For the first few measures, The melody line and the and the eight notes should be played by the right hand. The bass notes by your left. The top notes are usually played by your 4th or 5th finger. And the eight notes ae usually 2-1, or 3-1. Then when the 4th voice comes in after a few measures play the bass line and the bottome eight notes with your left hand, and the others with your right.
Sorry if this explanation is not what you wanted. I'm kinda confused by your post, and very tired at the moment. 
Hope I helped a little though.

[iumonito]

Hi jazzhands,

I have a few general recommendations.

First, absolutely forget about following fingerings in editions. Most are nonsense, and the ones that aren't are specific to the editor's conception of the music, which may easily stifle yours.

Instead, sing to yourself the melody, play it either by itself, or with the chords, or with the texture Beethoven wrote, but first of all sing.  If you sing it honestly your chances of finding a finger to play each note with are much better, and even if there is something less than ideal on how you relate to the instrument, you will find a way soon enough.

Which brings me to my last recommendation: if there is a group of notes that seems uncomfortable, or doesn't come through, try to figure out what the problem is.  Often the culprit will be not being on top of the note with a suitable finger before playing the note.  Very often the solution to that will be to get the closest available finger, move it over the desired note, and then letting it play the note.  This may require playing things in a way different than how they are represented in paper (for example playing with the left hand something written in the soprano staff, or lifting your hand to move sideways when something is marked with a slur - in which case either the pedal or simply your mind may keep them connected musically while you move around the keyboard efficiently).

Any particular measures that bother you?

[stevebob]

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[iratior]

Beethoven is one of the few composers to write 128th notes.  There are some in the first movement of the Pathetique.  I recommend a fingering of 4321432143214321 for the last cluster of them in the first movement, just before the tempo explodes from grave to allegro di molto e con brio.  The trouble with playing 128th notes is that they become very addictive;  one can have trouble resisting the urge to doctor up other pieces (or the second movement of the Pathetique itself, for that matter) with arpeggios and glissandi, just for the sake of having 128th notes.  Even Christmas carols are not exempt from such modifications;  when doctored up to have 128th notes in them, they become Christmas hypercarols.  Sometimes a fingering that would be inappropriate at a slow tempo can work quite well at a faster one, though;  in the third movement rondo, at measure 35, the right-hand fingering of 432 432 432 5432 is worth checking out.