Some help pls :)

[vorbate]

I've been listening to this song for quite a while, but I really can't understand the time signature. I know it says 4/4, however when I count the number of beats in the last bar, it adds up to more than 4. I know this is a very, very newbie/ignorant question, but can someone please explain this to me? Thanks.

[stevebob]

Could you post a graphic of the last bar?

[vorbate]

Could you post a graphic of the last bar?

Sorry, I meant in the picture I've just posted.
My questions was why does the bars with 4/4 time sig. have more than 4 beats? Thanks.

[thinkgreenlovepiano]

I counted each bar, they all have the correct number of beats... unless I am counting wrong?
I attached a picture, I hope it makes sense to you...

[littletune]

Hmm well I think it does have 4 beats  I mean maybe it confused you because you forgot that you should hold that half note and while you're holding it you play the other notes with other fingers... it doesn't mean that you should first play the haf note and then the eight notes...  at least I think it's that way... if you look at the right hand you have a half note and  then for eight notes so that's four beats and in the left hand you hold the half note and while you're playing it also play the three eight notes (and you start to play them an eight note later cause there's a rest in the beginning) and then you have half notes that you play at the same time and also at the same time you play a quarter note with a dot and then an eight note which is together two beats which makes 4 beats with the first half note...  ok I know I didn't explain that well at all... sorry... but I think there are 4 beats in that last bar... I think other people will explain it a lot better than me 

[pianowolfi]

Bar 1 starts after the double barline with the repeat sign. The two eighth notes before this are an upbeat (or pickup, as some use to call it) and don't fall on the first count but on the fourth count of a virtual bar before.

[littletune]

Oh but are there four beats in that last bar (in the picture) or not?  I'm confused now 

[vorbate]

Thanks for all your replies
I can't really read notes that well, and because where I live, I don't think I can get a good lesson.
Thanks for all your help, I sort of understand it at least now.

[pianowolfi]

Oh but are there four beats in that last bar (in the picture) or not?  I'm confused now 

Yes there are 4 beats in the last bar

[ongaku_oniko]

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do you watch any other animes?

[pianowolfi]

Animes 

very difficult.

Bruckner challenges the choir.

[vorbate]

OMG OMGOMG OMG ELFEN LIED!!!1!!1


Os iusti meditabitur... sapientiam et lingua eius loqueter indicium...


do you watch any other animes?

lol yes, I've watched quite a few now

[ongaku_oniko]

like which ones? What are your favorites?

[vorbate]

like which ones? What are your favorites?

Well some of my favs are

Elfen lied (no duh lol)
Claymore
Baccano
Hellsing
Samurai Champloo
Death Note

and some more xD

How about you?

[lebiffo]

Hello vorbate,
This reply is a bit tardy but just to go back to your original question of how many beats there are in the last bar of the Lilium sample you posted.  I'm a relative beginner myself but I came across something similar recently and found it confusing too until I got the answer from my teacher.  I'm sure that there are plenty of people on this forum who could explain it better but here goes: the key to it is that there are four voices in this bit of music, two on the treble clef and two on the bass clef.  They are distinguished on each clef by the direction of the note's stem, so taking the fourth bar of the treble clef first there are two voices, call them 1&2. The first voice consists of a minim followed by four quavers on a beam - 4 beats in total. The second voice on the treble clef and the third voice (on the bass clef) share the same notes for the first two beats, these are an eighth rest followed by three quavers on a beam, the second voice finishes with an A sharp minim - 4 beats in total. The third voice consists of the shared eighth rest & three quavers on a beam and then finishes with two minims as a chord - 4 beats in total.  The fourth voice has a minim, a dotted crotchet and a quaver - 4 beats in total.  That's the maths, as for the playing, where the voices overlap the notes comprising each beat are played together.  littletune has explained this very well above.

[littletune]

littletune has explained this very well above.

really?? I have? Thanks!! I'm really glad if I did!   

[ongaku_oniko]

I forgot about this topic. I totally don't understand that explanation XD the really complicated one with the voices and stuff, I mean.


my favorite anime:

5 centimeters per second
clannad after story
elfen lied
romeo x juliet
the place promised in our early days
hitohira
myself; yourself
lamune
Code Geass and many many more