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Offline Bob

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«Reply #150 on: April 01, 2011, 03:37:44 AM »
I suppose Nils would have to do a lot of detective work to dig up anything more.  Banning or suspending those accounts would be easier. 

I'm surprised he hasn't said more about having copyrighted material up on the site like that.

I think it's safe that it's someone older than a kid and not as old as LadyPianist was supposed to be, 70-something.  Another angle... How many 70-year-olds do you know who are computer savvy?  I didn't LadyPianist's posts.  I think she was supposed to be 70.  And if someone is that old and that good (I didn't listen to her posted material), would they be interested in an online forum?  They would have habits of practicing all day.  *Bob is wondering now how much technology and internet use the pianists he knows actually us.*  I know one pianist who doesn't even have a phone or car.  I'm doubting he even has a computer.  But he's a decent pianist.
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«Reply #151 on: April 01, 2011, 04:03:25 AM »
I totally agree with this point on ladypianist. However, what about Birba? He's also not that young, but is on a forum like this.

What I'm really interested in right now, is why Nils didn't delete one of Rogers' recordings.


The three accounts for Becky, LP and Roger were all created by the same person.

All recordings (except for Roger's Bach Inventions) were removed by Becky/LP/Roger and the remaining topics were then deleted by the forum administration. The three accounts are now suspended.

This has been bothering me for a while.

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«Reply #152 on: April 01, 2011, 06:14:12 AM »
what about Birba? He's also not that young,
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«Reply #153 on: April 01, 2011, 06:18:41 AM »
When you come right down to it, the only law broken was the copyright law.   You certainly don't have to swear on a bible before posting on pianostreet.com, and if someone wants to create a hoax, it's only up to the discretion of the monitor to decide what to do. 

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«Reply #154 on: April 01, 2011, 10:23:37 AM »
When you come right down to it, the only law broken was the copyright law.   You certainly don't have to swear on a bible before posting on pianostreet.com, and if someone wants to create a hoax, it's only up to the discretion of the monitor to decide what to do. 

yes!  and this is one of the fundamental characteristics of an internet forum.  nobody swears that they represent themselves truthfully, but part of the general expectation of the forum is that you conduct yourself at least semi-honestly.  this especially applies to one's descriptions of oneself, such as age, gender, background, etc.  however, it's really quite easy to create a different online personality, since everything you post can be carefully chosen to present whatever you desire.  I personally try to just be me, but I know a lot of people who try to present a quite different front.  clearly this is a far different issue than that of someone having conversations with 3 different versions of themselves, and stealing copyrighted material in support of the same, but I think that on some level, they are related issues. 

on a semi-related note, I'm reading Neuhaus' book right now.  There are a lot of little quips in there that make me pretty convinced that whoever this hoaxster was, they were well read, or at least the part of them that was "ladypianist" was.  "becky" had clearly read Gieseking's book, as I commented to her at one point a while ago, and some of her remarks about transposing pieces on the fly to match a singer were stories that had been attributed to Franz Liszt.  Roger, on the other hand, was the least developed of the personalities.  Hanon, Bach, Beethoven.  I think that this personality was a response to the widespread internet belief that if you only practice your exercises enough, in a sufficiently disciplined manner, that you will become great, and that such is the only path to greatness (cue the hanon wars and the entry of the anti-hanonites).

anyway, I don't really care who the culprit was, although I would prefer that such things do not recur.  I like this forum, and think that the quality of the discussion is generally pretty good.  things like this detract significantly.

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«Reply #155 on: April 01, 2011, 11:04:35 AM »
To all and sundry,

I was unaware that Lady Pianist was apparently one of multiple names connected with a hoax. However, before learning of this possible deception, I listened to the version of La Campanella and thought it was an excellent recording. Does anyone know if it was recorded by some other pianist (as in the Hatto fiasco)? While researching "Lady Pianist" a bit, I came across a name which I can no longer remember (Vera something?) which seemed to be the real name of Lady Pianist. Does anyone else recall seeing this name and if so, could you post it?

Finally, I would like the link to the La Campanella performance, because, hoax or not, I would like to be able to hear it again. Thanks for your help.

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«Reply #156 on: April 01, 2011, 11:36:21 AM »
I totally agree with this point on ladypianist. However, what about Birba? He's also not that young, but is on a forum like this.

What I'm really interested in right now, is why Nils didn't delete one of Rogers' recordings.


This has been bothering me for a while.

I think Birba's actually a she.


That is strange about the Roger Inventions.  Nils must be going on the side of going along with whatever the poster says, except in this case I think all the other recordings were rip offs.  I would assume these Roger Inventions would also be from someone other than Roger.  And Nils didn't take down the recordings either... Odd.  *Bob thinks this is a good sign for making a "Name that tune" thread that includes excerpts from pro recordings.*
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«Reply #157 on: April 01, 2011, 12:08:43 PM »
I think Birba's actually a she.


That is strange about the Roger Inventions.  Nils must be going on the side of going along with whatever the poster says, except in this case I think all the other recordings were rip offs.  I would assume these Roger Inventions would also be from someone other than Roger.  And Nils didn't take down the recordings either... Odd.  *Bob thinks this is a good sign for making a "Name that tune" thread that includes excerpts from pro recordings.*
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«Reply #158 on: April 01, 2011, 12:13:36 PM »


anyway, I don't really care who the culprit was, although I would prefer that such things do not recur.  I like this forum, and think that the quality of the discussion is generally pretty good.  things like this detract significantly.
But don't you see?  That whole period was very stimulating and good things came out of it.  I mean, I AM sort of pissed off that I took the time to make a video for Becky, but even if it wasn't her, I was doing it for whoever had made that video. (Albeit, they never asked for it.)  And the discussions that came up, e.g. accompanying an amateur show, sofrinitsky, etc. were actually very imformative.  So, really we were only made to feel like jack-asses.  That's all.   ;D

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«Reply #159 on: April 01, 2011, 02:13:34 PM »
I actually think I have a pretty good idea of who it is, but I don't intend to make a fool of myself by stating that here (all I have to go on is pure intuition). I'd love to know some day who it was, and if I was right, but I'm probably wrong. I once thought pianistimo and Mayla were the same person! How ridiculous =D.

If I were nils I think I'd let people have their fun so long as they weren't posting recordings by others. In other words, it shouldn't matter if someone has more than one persona, if they're not being abusive or are indeed being helpful or getting something out of this website, I don't think I'd go after them just for that.

That being the case, we can only guess!

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«Reply #160 on: April 01, 2011, 03:15:04 PM »
I once thought pianistimo and Mayla were the same person! How ridiculous =D.

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yup - impossible. pianistimo n thalbergmad perhaps are one person 8) ;D
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«Reply #161 on: April 01, 2011, 03:24:56 PM »
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«Reply #162 on: April 01, 2011, 03:29:42 PM »
What I'm really interested in right now, is why Nils didn't delete one of Rogers' recordings.

As soon as the hoax was revealed all recordings except the Inventions were removed by Becky-LP-Roger him-/herself. We then removed all topics in the audition room lacking recordings and since the Invention recordings were still in place and we have no indications that they are stolen copyrighted works we have left them up.
I hope this explains at least that part of the mystery!

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«Reply #163 on: April 01, 2011, 03:42:23 PM »
But, yes, I did experiment for a time, in a couple of ways.  Towards the beginning when I was here, I had several personalities, one of them being Gargamel.  haha.  I even pretended that Gargy had a crush on Mayla, but that actually made me blush a little  :-[.


You were gargamel? That's awesome! I kept imagining a nerdy norwegian guy with long hair and glasses for some reason. And, I liked the improvs "he" made, and often wondered if he would ever come back and keep growing! Looks like "he" has! =D

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«Reply #164 on: April 01, 2011, 04:33:22 PM »
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«Reply #165 on: April 01, 2011, 04:50:25 PM »
I once thought pianistimo and Mayla were the same person! How ridiculous =D.
Indeed so; pianistimayla would surely be beyond the merely impossible!

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«Reply #166 on: April 01, 2011, 04:52:08 PM »
pianistimo n thalbergmad perhaps are one person 8) ;D
Message #165 applies equally to whoever may have made such a suggestion.

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«Reply #167 on: April 01, 2011, 04:58:46 PM »
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«Reply #168 on: April 01, 2011, 05:17:14 PM »
Wow.  this thing is really getting deep.  In fact, it's over my head...

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«Reply #169 on: April 01, 2011, 05:26:54 PM »
Littletune is real. I can say because she has sent me a wonderful drawing and a Christmas card via snailmail, and it's absolutely original. I can see that it's real because you can't make up something like this, either you have the feeling or not, and she has it, it's not possible to fake it. I am very proud that she has sent it to me and I like it very much :)
Thank you Wolfi!  :)  :)  8)

And Ongaku Oniko I think I should thank you for suggesting it was me :) because then some people said really nice things about me and I'm happy about that and that they trust me :)

Oh and Birba is not really that old!  ::) He's just saying he is all the time but he's not really...  :P and Lady Pianist was 76 I think! Oh and her name was Nina :) (cause someone asked). And no I don't know that cause I'm her I just remember things like that  :P

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«Reply #170 on: April 01, 2011, 06:45:50 PM »
I'm not sure how sarcastic your comment was, but As I've mentioned, take it as a compliment that I think your English is great.

It never was meant to be offensive... I don't know why everyone suddenly had to go "defend" littletunes when

a) I indicated that I didn't really believe it either
b) I didn't think that it was a bad thing
c) There were other suggestions, none of which got the same, or indeed, any responses back.

There was no need to "defend" littletunes... certainly not 100000000 times.

The full name is Nina Vaskova, Becky was Rebecca Stern.


And I could totally see mayla and pianistimo (sp?) as the same person.

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«Reply #171 on: April 01, 2011, 06:55:02 PM »
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«Reply #172 on: April 01, 2011, 06:59:33 PM »
And I could totally see mayla and pianistimo (sp?) as the same person.

I have a long history of mistakenly believing two people online as being the same, going back to my adolescence. So, while I have a strong suspicion I know of multiple personas being the same person, I'm almost certain to be wrong. So, unless that person volunteers the information themselves, I'll forever be in the dark!  :)

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«Reply #173 on: April 01, 2011, 07:04:10 PM »
Oh, gee, I can't *believe* I went and told it what I would consider an insult!  I unknowingly let somebody know where I tired my goatz.  Whoas meez.  I am terribly surprised that somebody has gone ahead and decided to use it  :o :o.

Anyway, I actually don't believe you.  It's a nice detailed touch, though, that you include the "(sp?)" part.  That's one of the those little things which supposedly makes a convincing character.

It wasn't meant as an insult, I was simply stating that I could see it happen. But ifyou deny it, then I believe you. However, your posts, as Birba say, always goes over my head... much too profound for me

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«Reply #174 on: April 01, 2011, 07:04:39 PM »
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«Reply #175 on: April 01, 2011, 08:01:03 PM »
I'm not sure how sarcastic your comment was, but As I've mentioned, take it as a compliment that I think your English is great.

It never was meant to be offensive... I don't know why everyone suddenly had to go "defend" littletunes when

a) I indicated that I didn't really believe it either
b) I didn't think that it was a bad thing
c) There were other suggestions, none of which got the same, or indeed, any responses back.

There was no need to "defend" littletunes... certainly not 100000000 times.

The full name is Nina Vaskova, Becky was Rebecca Stern.


And I could totally see mayla and pianistimo (sp?) as the same person.
My comment wasn't sarcastic AT ALL! (I don't even know exactly what sarcastic means... I mean I think it's something like saying "Oh this is great" when you really think it's bad right?  :-\ ) ...So well I did mean it exactly like I said it and I'm not offended or anything and I am happy that so many people defended me!  :)  8) Thanks everyone :)

But what does "(sp?)" mean?  :-\ And isn't pianistimo someone who was here like a billion years ago? (i mean really long ago) :-\ I mean how could you know anything about her Ongaku Oniko?   :-\
Well I'm getting consfused by this thread too  :-\ oh well whatever :P

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«Reply #176 on: April 01, 2011, 08:03:53 PM »
My comment wasn't sarcastic AT ALL! (I don't even know exactly what sarcastic means... I mean I think it's something like saying "Oh this is great" when you really think it's bad right?  :-\ ) ...So well I did mean it exactly like I said it and I'm not offended or anything and I am happy that so many people defended me!  :)  8) Thanks everyone :)

But what does "(sp?)" mean?  :-\ And isn't pianistimo someone who was here like a billion years ago? (i mean really long ago) :-\ I mean how could you know anything about her Ongaku Oniko?   :-\
Well I'm getting consfused by this thread too  :-\ oh well whatever :P

Great questions.

1, that's basically what "sarcastic" means. To say something you don't mean.

2. (sp?) means spelling? Because I'm not sure if it's the right spelling.

3. Good question. I don't know pianistimo at all. But there's this thread in anything but piano about the top posters here, and I saw the name pianistimo, so I did a search and saw some of her jibberish conversations with mayla. That's why I thin they're so similar; I don't actually know either of them though, and honestly I'm glad I don't. It's not that they're not good people, they probably are; just that I will never be able to understand what they're saying, and it frustrates me to not understand :(

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«Reply #177 on: April 01, 2011, 08:11:32 PM »
But what does "(sp?)" mean?  :-\ And isn't pianistimo someone who was here like a billion years ago? (i mean really long ago) :-\ I mean how could you know anything about her Ongaku Oniko?   :-\
Well I'm getting consfused by this thread too  :-\ oh well whatever :P

I also wonder how ongaku knows who pianistimo is. I have been around longer than him and know OF her, but I'm not familiar with her personality and, therefore, would not be a good judge of whether or not she could be Mayla.

littletune, "(sp?)" is what you put after a word if you're not sure the spelling is right.

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«Reply #178 on: April 01, 2011, 08:11:58 PM »
And isn't pianistimo someone who was here like a billion years ago? (

That is impossible my little sweetie, as pianistimo "proved" beyond all doubt that the Universe is only 6,000 years old ;D

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«Reply #179 on: April 01, 2011, 08:14:50 PM »
*looks into mirror*

Seriously, you're choosing this?  Seriously?  Choose something else!  So sorry, Marik, for not getting my paper done yet.  I feel like sh*t right now for being here instead, but at least I'm learning why I choose this and I'm trying to do something about it.  And, if somebody else happens to be reading, I hope you can accept me even aside from all of this.

Oh, so you know dear departed Marik, do you?  Just like Karli, who hasn't been around here recently (since about the time you returned, if I recall correctly).  And your writing styles are very similar, too.  Huh.  Coincidences abound!
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«Reply #180 on: April 01, 2011, 08:24:36 PM »
I am not a hoax.

I am idiotic on forums and idiotic in real life.

Bollox

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«Reply #181 on: April 01, 2011, 08:26:27 PM »
Then Bollox = Luv.  :)
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«Reply #182 on: April 01, 2011, 08:28:09 PM »
Thanks for explanations! :) :)

That is impossible my little sweetie, as pianistimo "proved" beyond all doubt that the Universe is only 6,000 years old ;D

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Hmmm 6 000 years seems really young for a universe!...  :-\ that must be like a baby universe... or maybe a newborn baby universe  :D  :P  :)

Mayla is a genius! That's why you can't always understand everything she says so exactly! But she's really cool  8)
And Oh... I don't think that's a secret or anything is it? I mean Mayla is Karli it's even in Karli's signature  :-\ (Or was that sarcastic comment or something  :-\ yes I'm really getting confused).

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«Reply #183 on: April 01, 2011, 08:32:11 PM »
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«Reply #184 on: April 01, 2011, 09:40:17 PM »
Mayla is Karli?!  Pianistimo was a woman?  And where is this top posters thing?!  I'm sinking deeper and deeper...

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«Reply #185 on: April 01, 2011, 09:49:25 PM »
I was referring to this: http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=35590.0

That's where I saw pianistimo's name.

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«Reply #186 on: April 01, 2011, 10:17:44 PM »
Mayla is Karli?!  Pianistimo was a woman?  And where is this top posters thing?!  I'm sinking deeper and deeper...

Don't worry. Mayla is Karli and was Gargy (hee hee I like Gargy :) )  and pianistimo is a woman, she got banned a while ago. Nevertheless I have met her in person and I can confirm that she is real.

And I have been here always only the one and only

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«Reply #187 on: April 02, 2011, 01:33:36 AM »

I also, though, just picked a completely random name one time, made a random post which included some kind of beliefs about music and piano, and then, just to see what would happen, I googled the name with "piano" and actually easily found somebody who was a pianist, and who seemed to be a close enough match in musical thoughts that it would've been totally believable!  I had just wanted to see how difficult it would actually be to be a persona with website and photos to match (well, and that was starting with nothing.  Obviously, you can start with something you already find and then easily create a forum persona from there).  Not too difficult, as it turns out!  Or else, I just got lucky!  But, mostly, at some point I did decide I could spend my time in other ways.

Who's this other member that was created?

I thought pianistimo was real.  She had a pic but now... that doesn't mean much.  But she posted so much.  It would be worked to post that much by itself.
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«Reply #188 on: April 02, 2011, 03:30:20 AM »
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«Reply #189 on: April 02, 2011, 03:36:39 AM »
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«Reply #190 on: April 02, 2011, 03:42:05 AM »
Dangit.  *Bob thought pianistimo was real.*  I'm still leaning toward her being real.
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«Reply #191 on: April 02, 2011, 03:56:19 AM »
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«Reply #192 on: April 02, 2011, 03:58:46 AM »
Now I'm confused. Am I ... real? How do I know for sure ???

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«Reply #193 on: April 02, 2011, 06:08:22 AM »
Now I'm really curious.  Are you the real Mayla?  In the sense, is "mayla" a verified human being?  I had been here a while before you "returned" to the scene.  I was quite fascinated by Mayla's personae.  I think Ongaku hit it on the nail when he asked if Mayla was in some sort of cult.  The esoteric comments which I find difficult to follow, the "Werther" angst sort of voice, etc. really got under my skin at times.  Now that Mayla admits to having created other personae,  I'm wondering if Mayla is a creation...

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«Reply #194 on: April 02, 2011, 08:39:24 AM »
That's the sad aspect of these hoaxes. They cause distrust and suspicions and make people doubt everybody.
I think in general I am doing quite well with my motto that I should not make any difference between my internet persona and my real one. I try to act on the internet as I am in real life and I am not part of the philosophy that says "It's only the internet, you can do whatever you want, offend people, and don't get offended by others, it's just the internet..." etc.

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«Reply #195 on: April 02, 2011, 10:44:03 AM »
AMEN to that!

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«Reply #196 on: April 02, 2011, 12:20:03 PM »
Still confused  ::) Why is everyone now saying pianistimo isn't real? If Wolfi said he met her  :-\ I think I even once saw a picture of them (probably in pictures thread).  :-\ Oh well it doesn't matter. I'm sure Wolfi is real :)
And I'm really real too  :P I sometimes feel like I'm even more real here than in real life... I mean like I can be more me here... cause in real life I have to sometimes act the way I know people expect me to... like more serious and smart and more grownup... and I really hate it, but sometimes I just have to  >:( cause I don't wanna disappoint people and things like that  ::) And here I'm just really me :) and I don't pretend to be smarter or anything... I just say stupid things and all that and it's cool  8)  :P

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Re: hoaxes
«Reply #197 on: April 02, 2011, 01:30:53 PM »
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Re: hoaxes
«Reply #198 on: April 02, 2011, 04:27:03 PM »
Well, actually, I really don't like that name at all and I will take that as a direct insult, actually.
Absolutely none was intended and I remain puzzled as to why you have done this.

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Re: hoaxes
«Reply #199 on: April 02, 2011, 04:46:06 PM »
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