Is my hand goind to be affected?

[teenytitans]

Ok, so I'm just a piano major in college and to play the piano, you need dexterity on each fingers (or something), but I am also learning the contrabass ( https://phillipwserna.com/myPictures%203/Waubonsie%20Valley%20Double%20Bass%20Concerto%20Concert%203.20.2007.04%20Small.jpg ) and one of the bass student keeps telling me that my left hand will become slower, or rusty ( because the left hand controls the pitch, and the hand needs to be strong to hold down the thick strings ).
I feel...weird or terrified of what they say about my left hand. (Then my teacher just gave me the revolutionary etude as an assignment. Amazing. ) Can it really affect my hand? T.T

[ch101]

I would say yes. The contrabass is very demanding on the left hand just because you are holding down the strings and the vibration would cause your fingers to somehow "toughen up". You are putting your piano studies on the line, and if you really vigorously work on the contrabass don't even think about the Chopin etude. I tried a cello once and that is where I am coming from. I would recommend you to focus on one instrument... if the contrabass is your true passion then go for it. Those are two very different instruments and the requirements are quite different.
Good luck!

[stevebob]

I would say yes. The contrabass is very demanding on the left hand just because you are holding down the strings and the vibration would cause your fingers to somehow "toughen up". You are putting your piano studies on the line, and if you really vigorously work on the contrabass don't even think about the Chopin etude. I tried a cello once and that is where I am coming from. I would recommend you to focus on one instrument... if the contrabass is your true passion then go for it. Those are two very different instruments and the requirements are quite different.Good luck!

Wow, you write with such clarity and eloquence for the 11-year-old boy you've previously claimed to be.  It's so hard to fathom how far you've come since you wrote fragmentary replies (like i do not like) that bore neither capitalization nor punctuation.

I think you're a fraud and a liar, and you should be exposed just like the others who have recently exploited this forum for their own amusement.

[ongaku_oniko]

You're saying

I tried a Cello once

Is "clear and eloquent"? Give the kid a break. Who cares if he's real or not? For one thing, he knows Richmond, which means he's not lying about where he lives.

But even if he was a fraud, so what? Get off your high horse and make a legitimate reply in the rev etude vs fantasie thread. Defend yourself.

[stevebob]

Why the hostility?

Nobody is forcing you to care if people are real or not, and I'll decide my own priorities.

You're not the arbiter of high horses or legitimate replies.

[ongaku_oniko]

look, you're probably quite knowledgeable musically, and I respect you for it.

I can understand if you don't like people not seriously discussing about music and whatnot.

But do you have to be so mean to everyone? What if ch101 is a real person? Why so harsh on a kid? So what if pianist1989 is "wrong", and fantasie is objectively easier than revolutionary etude?

You don't need to be so mean in saying it. That's what I'm trying to say.

[ch101]

Give me a way to prove I am 11 and I will provide it for you as long as it is in my power to do so.

[ongaku_oniko]

upload a pic of u standing in lansdowne mall by the fazioli 

[stevebob]

look, you're probably quite knowledgeable musically, and I respect you for it.

I can understand if you don't like people not seriously discussing about music and whatnot.

But do you have to be so mean to everyone? What if ch101 is a real person? Why so harsh on a kid? So what if pianist1989 is "wrong", and fantasie is objectively easier than revolutionary etude?

You don't need to be so mean in saying it. That's what I'm trying to say.

This is a forum in which a surprising number of members pride themselves on being "sh*theads"; I think that's unfortunate, and I am not one of them.

The stylistic inconsistency in the spectrum of ch101’s posts is at least as palpable as the inconsistencies in those of Becky and Lady Pianist, which have been widely commented upon by other members already.

Your concern for civility in discourse here is laudable, yet I feel it is belied by your own postings to that "other" thread to which you've referred.  I'm confident that people can judge the respective contributions there for their balance of temperance and meanness, and that they can likewise decide whose statements were intended to inform or, conversely, to attack.

[ongaku_oniko]

I just ran through that in the google translator, but it didn't really help

Let me say this: if I've offended you, I'm sorry.

I do not intend to offend anyone, though it happens very often that I do offend people. Regardless, I am sorry when I do.

Again, I don't really understand what you said there. I'm not trying to be some really smart person using sophisticated words and concepts to show off to others. If that's how it appeared to you, again, I'm sorry.

I just think you should give people a bit more... credit and even if you know more than others, there's no need to be angry at them for being foolish.

[stevebob]

Apology accepted.  We can't expect to like everyone else's communication style, but I, too, am sorry if I've come across as mean or angry (or have otherwise offended ... even in defending myself or my position).

o_o, feel free to PM me if you wish to discuss this (or anything else) further—lest we risk permanently derailing this thread from its original query.

[Bob]

upload a pic of u standing in lansdowne mall by the fazioli 

He could find a pic of someone else doing that or get someone else to do that and take a pic.  You never know who's real. 

[ongaku_oniko]

Finding a pic of an 11yr old boy standing by the fazioli in landsdowne? Not likely...

And why would an 11 yr old do that for him.

Even if he was able to find a person to do it for him, that means he must live in the vicinity.

[jimbo320]

I tried reading every post in order but near the end I forgot what the original thread started out as.....

[fleetfingers]

upload a pic of u standing in lansdowne mall by the fazioli 

He could find a pic of someone else doing that or get someone else to do that and take a pic.  You never know who's real.  

Instead of a pic, how about a video of an 11-year-old ch101 playing Pathetique on said Fazioli???

[littletune]

Noone except Ch101 gave an answer to this question!  And I really wish people would answer it! Because I kinda wish I could some day try to learn to play cello! I mean when I first started saying to my mum that I wanted to go to music school I was saying all the time for 2 years that I wanted to learn the cello... but then it just so happened that I started learning piano, and of course I'm NOT sorry AT ALL! But I still kinda wish I could someday try learning the cello too! At least a little... So I would really like to know if you can play both or better not? 

[kelly_kelly]

I would say yes. The contrabass is very demanding on the left hand just because you are holding down the strings and the vibration would cause your fingers to somehow "toughen up". You are putting your piano studies on the line, and if you really vigorously work on the contrabass don't even think about the Chopin etude. I tried a cello once and that is where I am coming from. I would recommend you to focus on one instrument... if the contrabass is your true passion then go for it. Those are two very different instruments and the requirements are quite different.
Good luck!

I have to say I can't help but share stevebob's suspicions... but even taking this post at face value, it seems like nonsense to me. You "tried a cello once" and concluded that playing the cello threatens a pianist's left hand? How long did you spend on the cello, or even on the piano for that matter? I would imagine that initially it might cause some confusion, and of course bringing two very different instruments up to a high level can be difficult, but in the middle (focusing on piano while learning contrabass at an intermediate-ish stage) is harmless. I know several very good pianists who play instruments like the cello and contrabass.

[ch101]

Wow.

[invictious]

I have to say I can't help but share stevebob's suspicions... but even taking this post at face value, it seems like nonsense to me. You "tried a cello once" and concluded that playing the cello threatens a pianist's left hand? How long did you spend on the cello, or even on the piano for that matter? I would imagine that initially it might cause some confusion, and of course bringing two very different instruments up to a high level can be difficult, but in the middle (focusing on piano while learning contrabass at an intermediate-ish stage) is harmless. I know several very good pianists who play instruments like the cello and contrabass.

I agree with kelly_kelly's doubts.

I have played the cello for longer than I have played the piano (12 and 10 years respectively). In fact, I play the cello better than I play the piano (but again I am no good at the piano )

If playing the cello and it affects your left hand such that it has a considerable impact on your piano playing, or daily activities, then your posture/technique is poor and you are slowly injuring yourself.

[sucom]

At music college, my first, main instrument was the piano and my second instrument was the cello which I took up to grade 8.  Playing the cello never affected my piano playing at all; in fact it made my left hand and fingers stronger.   

[teenytitans]

@things above- TOO LONG, DIDN'T READ. (*insert Trollface*)

My performance level in piano is higher than in contrabass (If you know Simandl, I'm not done with it yet! XD)
I like playing the contrabass, because I want to discover more music, not just piano music, chamber, orchestral etc. I (sometimes) want to be on the rear of the stage on a piano concerto, just to see/feel what it looks/feels like.

The cello is really different from the contrabass because in cello, the 4 fingers of the left hand (also the thumb, which is placed behind the neck of the instrument) are used. While in bass, only the thumb (which is behind the neck again), index, middle, and the pinky finger are used/important, making the 4th finger....weak or something.
(Try this out: Open your hand and spread your fingers. The space from the index finger to the pinky is only a whole tone [for example, you play C on the index finger, then D is on the pinky ] Yep, it's pretty hectic to play scales on a bass. Just sharing )

Um, I guess I'll just have to work/exercise my left hand x2/3 as hard?