Project Shapety Shape

[thalbergmad]

That is a good healthy protein intake if you are lifting weights.

Much of my protein comes from shakes as i dont want the calories. Getting rid of the last stubborn bits of fat.

Thal

[georgey]

That is a good healthy protein intake if you are lifting weights.

Much of my protein comes from shakes as i dont want the calories. Getting rid of the last stubborn bits of fat.

Thal

Just my crippled old man stuff.  I do like protein shakes though.  Max two 25 gram protein scoops a day - afraid I might irritate my stomach.  GNC Pure isolate micro-filtered whey protein isolate chocolate frosting - hope nothing toxic in this - heavy metals?  I looked up each ingredient and it looks like all are okay.

[thalbergmad]

I tend to go for the Isolate as it is usually lower carbs, however many sellers seem to use the word isolate to bump up the cost.
I am currently on about 250 grms of protein per day, 100 of which come from shakes.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

 400 pounds x 3.
500 is not far away

[ted]

Amazing, don't know how you do it, looks like hernia city. Well done.

[thalbergmad]

Done incorrectly, there are all kinds of dangers.
You will note my loss of form on the 3rd rep. That is why i was not asked for a 4th and why these types of lifts should be supervized.
Inhope to post a video of a 500 in due course.

Thal

[timothy42b]

Wow, that's an awesome dead lift, and you're doing it raw, no compression shirt or straps.

I see you use the alternate grip.  When I did dead lifts last I went to a hook grip or the weight would just roll out of my hands.  No more weights for me, but I do chin-ups and dips with a light weight on my belt (to make up for the fat I've lost).

I think if I were going to do a lot of dead lifting for my health now I'd buy a trap bar.  The US army is using that in their new Combat Fitness Test and it looks a lot safer for someone not skilled in the fine points of form.  Some of the other new test events look a little less safe, you should youtube it.  (ACFT) 

[thalbergmad]

The trap bar allows one to take pressure off the lower back, so i guess it is safer.

Sure good for them glutes.

Thal

[Bob]

So, Thal, serious question.  How do you push things when you don't feel like it?

I'm thinking the answer is to wait, heal up, stretch/massage things out, still do something but not the max weight, and then.... probably start building up from a lower weight I guess.  Agree?

[thalbergmad]

Depends why you dont feel like it old chap.

If i wake up tired but otherwise OK, i drag myself to the gym.

If i have pain or injury, then what you suggested.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

http://imgur.com/r1xKrRe
Don't mess with me baby.

[ahinton]

http://imgur.com/r1xKrRe
Don't mess with me baby.

Didn't know that you had a baby with whom to mess!

Best,

Alistair

[ted]

http://imgur.com/r1xKrRe
Don't mess with me baby.

An outstanding achievement of which you should be proud. I don’t think I could have ever gone the muscle building way, not the right natural shape. Sad about Peter Snell by the way, but I guess going while asleep is a pretty good option.

[thalbergmad]

I did not know that. Great athlete.
I think a heart attack in the gym will ecentually do for me.

[ahinton]

I think a heart attack in the gym will ecentually do for me.

I very much hope not, Thal, (not so) old chap!

Best,

Alistair

[goldentone]

http://imgur.com/r1xKrRe
Don't mess with me baby.

I would not want to meet such a man in a pub, unless Schumann were with me. 

[ahinton]

I would not want to meet such a man in a pub, unless Schumann were with me. 

I would be loath to take Schumann to a pub.

Best,

Alistair

[Bob]

Hey Thal, about how many calories were you eating per day while bulking?  And what did you eat to get extra calories like that, considering "storage space?"

[thalbergmad]

I consume 3000 calories when bulking and 2000 when cutting old chap. That is only 500 either side of my maintenance level of 2500.
At my lightest i was 192 pounds and i am now 225 pounds. I operate on different macros and consume more carbs on a bulk. More oat cakes, porridge and the like.
Thal

[ted]

Has anyone else experienced considerable improvement in fitness during lockdown ? Mowing the kikuyu grass in autumn used to involve some effort but now it is just an enjoyable prelude to real training. It would be even more enjoyable were our place not the local cat lavatory but never mind. lately, I am finding I have to exercycle madly for an hour to feel I have done anything. Of course I think everybody is eating better, sleeping better, cooking their own food, that would help.



 

[thalbergmad]

Looking great Ted. You have serious muscle for a man of your vintage.
One of the positives of this virus is that McDonalds is closed, which can only benefit those that consumed it.
In what condition people emerge from this lockdown i think will vary. Some of my friends seem to be drinking more and exercising less, but others are realising that fitness seems to be a defence against this virus.
I guess only time will tell.

[thalbergmad]

http://ibb.co/GcMfSTc 

[ahinton]

http://ibb.co/GcMfSTc 

Fitness personified! Well done! You could probably do with a new phone case, though...

Best,

Alistair

[Bob]

How do you deal with pushing in one direction vs. another?  You're going to lose somewhere if it's the edge, right?

[thalbergmad]

I dont understand you old boy.

[thalbergmad]

How does one embed a photo in this place. I have forgotten how to do it.

[Bob]

I dont understand you old boy.

If you push in one area, like arms, you probably have to devote more time to that, so you're devoting less time to another area, like legs.  And a push takes some time, effort, focus.  It would happen over days at least, maybe weeks.  If you're really doing something new in one direction, it will take a while to capture it, but then you're neglecting/atrophying? in another direction.....   I guess you just have to go back to the other area and regroup.  Chances are there's a crash happening while pushing farther in one direction anyway too I suppose.

[timothy42b]

Has anyone else experienced considerable improvement in fitness during lockdown ?

The gyms at work have been closed, which eliminated my lunch hour workouts.  I telework at home alternate days, so I can workout and shower at lunch, but office days while I have time to workout I'd have to come back sweaty. 

So on those days my workouts move to after work, and what I find is if I workout hard I can't get to sleep.  So my fitness hasn't changed much, but I get less sleep.

I have moved to a new program to fit it in this way.  Mondays i go to yoga class after work.  Tuesdays and Fridays I ride my exercise bike (an old 10 speed on a mag trainer, great workout).  Wednesdays and Saturdays I do kettlebell swings ala Pavel.  Thursdays and Sundays are Turkish Getups.  I'm still maintaining that 50 pound weightloss 2 years in.

[ted]

The gyms at work have been closed, which eliminated my lunch hour workouts.  I telework at home alternate days, so I can workout and shower at lunch, but office days while I have time to workout I'd have to come back sweaty. 

So on those days my workouts move to after work, and what I find is if I workout hard I can't get to sleep.  So my fitness hasn't changed much, but I get less sleep.

I have moved to a new program to fit it in this way.  Mondays i go to yoga class after work.  Tuesdays and Fridays I ride my exercise bike (an old 10 speed on a mag trainer, great workout).  Wednesdays and Saturdays I do kettlebell swings ala Pavel.  Thursdays and Sundays are Turkish Getups.  I'm still maintaining that 50 pound weightloss 2 years in.

You are probably more highly organised than I am at the best of times. It might be that I just felt better during lockdown through the compulsory elimination of social duties I do not enjoy. Aside from daily training sessions in the late afternoon I keep activity fairly unstructured, much the same as I do with music. I used fitbits for a while but I broke them all, and I came to the conclusion that being in thrall to devices, constant preoccupation with times, figures, blood pressure, pulse and so on, did not lead to a positive mental state. Discipline is important but so is spontaneity and prior to lockdown I was getting very regimented.

[Bob]

How does one embed a photo in this place. I have forgotten how to do it.

Preview button and the picture icon.   or



How much do you rest?  Like in terms of days.  In terms of weight lifting I guess.  Do you do something different on a day you're not resting from weight lifting?