Beethoven sonata #3 movement IV question

[photowriters]

This is for all of the theory geeks and composers. Where does the 3rd subject of part 2 of movement IV of Beethoven's 3rd Piano sonata end?

It starts in mm103 and part 3 of movement IV begins in mm181, but does the third subject run the full 77 bars from mm103 through mm180?

Does it end earlier say mm110? or mm126?

Is part of the 77 measures a development of the third subject and part a bridge section to part 3 ov movement IV?

I've looked and hav not been able to find an authoritative reference that answers this question.

[liszt1022]

The initial statement of that subject ends at 110. After that is a bunch of development.

[photowriters]

The initial statement of that subject ends at 110. After that is a bunch of development.

That was my initial analysis as well, but that is contrary to the normal sonata-rondo form. It appears that Beethoven used the "standard" sonata-rondo form as a shell upon which to do his own thing.

Agreed?

[liszt1022]

It was usual for Beethoven to "do his own thing" based on the standard models. You'd have a hard time finding many sonata movements of his that go exactly according to standard models.

[photowriters]

You'd have a hard time finding many sonata movements of his that go exactly according to standard models.

Agreed!