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Offline madvillain

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attitudes toward hip hop
« on: May 05, 2011, 07:48:41 AM »
A few times, most noticeably on youtube I've seen a lot of deaming comments about hip hop coming from classical music fans.  There're fine with saying sargent peppers is a master piece but would dismiss someone like nas (who i think is really great).  It's a bummer because outside of classical hip hop is probably my favorite type of music. 
What do you guys think, is there a prejudice among classical fans against hip hop?

Offline cygnusdei

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Re: attitudes toward hip hop
«Reply #1 on: May 05, 2011, 08:04:56 AM »
I happen to like hip-hop, although I may not keep up with current artists. I think it has a lot to do with emphases. Hip-hop emphasizes beats (percussion?) and poetry, none of which is especially important in classical music. I have encountered strong reactions to country music too, but that's a different story :)

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Re: attitudes toward hip hop
«Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 12:08:35 AM »
I kind of accept most of the popular genre except rap as i just can't understand a single things out of it. But i know quite a few people dislike popular music from the end of "Queen" onwards due to the fact most of the popular song is not as inventive as classical could be. This types of reaction is quite normal for me, i think; as many of my friends at college do hates my music taste (classical, film score, trip hop), and the only reason for them to hate it, is that it's boring and scary. So overall i think it's kind of the same for some people who you've just referred to do the same.
To compose/perform music in the way I want it to, indeed that's why I never get a pleasant results in performance... :/

Offline rachmaninoff_forever

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Re: attitudes toward hip hop
«Reply #3 on: January 22, 2013, 12:50:26 AM »
J Menz, lay down the law.
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Offline teran

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Re: attitudes toward hip hop
«Reply #4 on: January 22, 2013, 01:07:45 AM »
Hip hop went largely downhill as it became more mainstream and started trying to cater to white people/started being employed by white people.

Hip hop and rap etc stem from the African musical style of elaborate cross rhythmic patterns. People don't realise this because "oh it's just some guy talking he can't even seing", not realising that his rhythmic recital of the spoken word adds another layer to the overall rhythmic texture.

That and most white people don't really understand black music fully because they haven't been historically subjugated and held down, which is what a lot of rap ultimately stems from. Rebellion against the system. sure some of it is about sex and material possessions, but so is most of general mainstream pop anyway, and what most of people's motivations in life actually boil down to.

That and because rap is just one of those easy targets. First it was rock and roll, then metal etc.

There's always something that people just won't relate to and look down on, I mean, who really cares? I suppose it could help to enlighten them, but people also enjoy being elitist so there we go.

This post reminded me of a funny standup routine about white people having no business playing the blues.

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Re: attitudes toward hip hop
«Reply #5 on: January 22, 2013, 01:09:02 AM »
J Menz, lay down the law.

Hmmmm. OK.

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