Learning italian and spanish

[countrymath]

Well, the world cup will be held here in  2011, and I hope I can learn both italian and spanish until there.

is there anyone here who is learning any of these languages?

[Bob]

I'm interested in both.  I need to know more Spanish.

[countrymath]

Nice....

Got msn?

[retrouvailles]

I know both languages. If you learn one, the other one comes almost instantly.

[brogers70]

Countrymath,

You speak portuguese already, so spanish will be a piece of cake, and italian is pretty close to spanish (with a bit of more French-like grammar). Once you know 2 romance languages the others are easy to learn.

[countrymath]

Thank you all!

I'm studiyng italian and english now because I couldn't find a spanish method yet. But I think spanish is more usefull, cause its more well-known.

[oxy60]

The only difficulty will be not confusing the three. Of all the languages my holiday making friends spoke it was my basic Italian that saved the day in Portugal (or we would never had that BBQ dinner!).

You will have no problem even putting in Portuguese words to make your point. Please always speak slowly and use good diction. Be proud of your language. Don't mumble. Use correct grammer. We also want to hear it and learn it correctly.

[pianowolfi]

Estoy aprendiendo español y me gusta mucho

[retrouvailles]

Estoy aprendiendo español y me gusta mucho

Es muy fácil, ¿no?

[oxy60]

Hey Countrymath, will you be in Golania on Saturday or better yet be at the game? I'll be watching it on TV via a Mexican channel in Spanish and then after it is over, switch to the second half (2T) of USA-Spain which will be in English on ESPN.

It's feast or famine here in the US as far as international soccer is concerned. I'm a fan all four teams in these two matches so I may end up recording one and watching the other or maybe go split screen...

[Bob]

How do you guys do the accent marks without copying it in from another program like Word?

[retrouvailles]

I have my computer set to US-international, meaning that certain combinations of punctuation marks with letters create an accent mark (it means that you have to hit the space bar after said punctuation mark to get that punctuation mark). An example is this: é = e + ' , è = e + `. It makes typing in these languages very easy an quick. You can also use ALT commands, but this can take longer. An example of this is é = ALT 130, è = ALT 138.

[Bob]

e
e'

 
Agh... I can't do it. 

[Bob]

e'
e
n~

Darnit.  I have the keyboard on U.S.--International now.  It's under the region and language settings.

130  130
130
 

LeftAlt-Shift toggles between languages.

 ..Nope.  Not working for me yet....

[Bob]

https://www.starr.net/is/type/kbh.html

é   Hey, hey!   

I was using the numbers above the keys.  The numeric keypad gets the right results.

[Bob]

'e e' 'e e'

e'  é   Hey... Cool.  It wasn't actually on the US-Int keyboard setting.     

'u :u ü ü ü   oooo.... *Bob is impressed with his umlauts.*

[Bob]

Is there a way to hit another key or something to turn that off?  As in wanted to type "i....  Or you just type " space i  to get that I suppose....

Or hit LeftAlt-Shift to switch back to the plain US keyboard...  Except that doesn't work if your languages are both English.

[countrymath]

Hey Countrymath, will you be in Golania on Saturday or better yet be at the game? I'll be watching it on TV via a Mexican channel in Spanish and then after it is over, switch to the second half (2T) of USA-Spain which will be in English on ESPN.

It's feast or famine here in the US as far as international soccer is concerned. I'm a fan all four teams in these two matches so I may end up recording one and watching the other or maybe go split screen...

Wut? 

[oxy60]

Wow, aren't you in Brazil? Are you unaware of a WK exhibition game being played in your country?

Sorry for the odd message. Your posts mentioned the WK scheduled to be played in Brazil, that being the reason for learning other languages.

[countrymath]

Wow, aren't you in Brazil? Are you unaware of a WK exhibition game being played in your country?

Sorry for the odd message. Your posts mentioned the WK scheduled to be played in Brazil, that being the reason for learning other languages.

Ooooh, yeah, yeah... you mean "Goiania". You wrote "Golania", thats why I got confused.

No, I will not be there. I may be practicing on saturday, tough  .

I'm not a great fan of soccer. I learning those languages because with the world cup, I guess lots of girls from Europe will come here, and I want to be ready for them  . My city has a great italian comunity, either.

[pianowolfi]

Es muy fácil, ¿no?

Mucho más facil que alemán.

[littletune]

Mucho más facil que alemán.

Does that maybe mean: A lot easier than German. ?  I mean I have no idea it just kinda sounded that way to me   

[retrouvailles]

Mucho más facil que alemán.

One small correction: switch the accents on "mas" and "fácil", hehe.

Does that maybe mean: A lot easier than German. ?  I mean I have no idea it just kinda sounded that way to me   

Yes, that is what it means.

[martinsl]

i want to learn french, yo hablo español (tired of it) y ya estoy cansado de el hahaha.

[retrouvailles]

i want to learn french, yo hablo español (tired of it) y ya estoy cansado de el hahaha.

You shouldn't be tired of it. You're still making bad grammar mistakes! (You can't use "el" to mean "it" in Spanish.) There, you have something to work on.

[ihavetoleave]

I hope you can understand that...it is really hard for a easterner to learn italian...oh god..who can tell me how to pronounce "r"

[retrouvailles]

I hope you can understand that...it is really hard for a easterner to learn italian...oh god..who can tell me how to pronounce "r"

Easterner? What country are you from?

The way you pronounce the "r" in Spanish and Italian (and many other languages actually), is hard to explain over the internet. The way you pronounce the "r" is similar to how "tt" is pronounced in the American pronunciation of the word "butter" in some cases. In other cases, the "r" is "trilled", meaning that that tapping action is repeated. This only happens when you have an "r" at the beginning of a word, or when you have two "r"'s in a row in the middle of a word. I hope this is clear.

[martinsl]

You shouldn't be tired of it. You're still making bad grammar mistakes! (You can't use "el" to mean "it" in Spanish.) There, you have something to work on.

si se puede usar, porque me estoy refiriendo al español como termino masculino. Tambien depende del español que se use en Argentina hay terminos que se ponen de distinta manera , o se dicen de otra forma, pero siempre tiene el mismo significado, depende.

[svetmira]

Finally! A board in which I understand what people are talking about  (jk)

And just for the record, martinsl is right: since we don't have "it" in Spanish we use "él" or "ella" (him/her) if the sentence needs it (most of time it can be left out, though). "Ya estoy cansado de él" is perfectly correct and idiomatic. 

[retrouvailles]

Finally! A board in which I understand what people are talking about  (jk)

And just for the record, martinsl is right: since we don't have "it" in Spanish we use "él" or "ella" (him/her) if the sentence needs it (most of time it can be left out, though). "Ya estoy cansado de él" is perfectly correct and idiomatic. 

Well, that isn't how I was taught. Perhaps in other Spanish-speaking countries it is ok, but not around me.

[ihavetoleave]

I hope you can understand that...it is really hard for a easterner to learn italian...oh god..who can tell me how to pronounce "r"

well thank you. I am from China,and I can pronounce "r" now.one my friend who like B-box taught me that :-) but still I need more practise because I can't control my tongue well :-(

[ihavetoleave]

Easterner? What country are you from?

The way you pronounce the "r" in Spanish and Italian (and many other languages actually), is hard to explain over the internet. The way you pronounce the "r" is similar to how "tt" is pronounced in the American pronunciation of the word "butter" in some cases. In other cases, the "r" is "trilled", meaning that that tapping action is repeated. This only happens when you have an "r" at the beginning of a word, or when you have two "r"'s in a row in the middle of a word. I hope this is clear.

well thank you. I am from China,and I can pronounce "r" now.one my friend who like B-box taught me that :-) but still I need more practise because I can't control my tongue well :-(