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Is there a Mussolini edition of Bach's Prelude and Fugue?

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Offline jzp93

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Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
on: June 10, 2011, 05:09:54 PM
I told my son's piano teacher that I am buying a used Bach's Prelude and Fugue from
amazon and she said to find the "Mussolini edition". I have been to a lot of site on the
internet and I have never seen a Bach Prelude & Fugue Mussolini edition. I did see a Bach-Busoni edition but she said Busoni is different. I think she knows what she's talking about. She graduated from Gnessin school of Music and Moscow Conservatory so she should know what she's talking about right. She did say it's very hard to find and one of her students have the no. 23 w/c he brought with him all the way from China but no book.  If this edition exist, where can I buy it??? I'm not a professional but I need help on this for my son who is a piano student and I thought only the professionals would know what I'm talking about(w/c is why I'm here).

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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 05:26:30 PM
Perhaps this edition is more populous in certain countries, and not so in others.  Ask your son's piano teacher where she obtained her copy.  You may also wish to obtain the title and details in the original language as printed on the music.  This may aid your searches, as the English translation of the title may not be what it is listed as in databases. 
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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 06:22:01 PM
There is an edition by Bruno Mugellin for PWM that is posted on IMSLP. I am certain this is what she was referring to. IMSLP gives the follwoing information:"Text in Polish, title page and contents in Russian. It is possible that this edition is a re-engraving of the Breitkopf issue from 1908 with the text translated into Polish."

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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #3 on: June 10, 2011, 06:33:15 PM
Thank you Quantum and Sharon_F. I appreciate your help. My son's teacher has a very thick Russian accent so I think she does mean Mugellin. I will look into it.

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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #4 on: June 10, 2011, 07:28:28 PM
Thank you Sharon. I found the Mugellini edition of Bach's Prelude & Fugue.
I don't know why it matters so much but I like to keep
my son's piano teacher happy since she seems to really care
and believe in him.

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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #5 on: June 10, 2011, 08:10:27 PM
Actually, the choice of edition does matter quite a bit.  In music publishing the content is often subject to editing and "interpretation", as well commentary on the music by the editors.  The degree and care to which this takes place differs greatly.  You will see some editions are heavily edited, while others labeled "Urtext" try to come as close to the original as possible with minimal interference.  You can actually get very different looking copies the same piece, depending on the editing and publishing practices. 

Additionally, editing philosophies have changed greatly within the last century.  So a book published in the early 20th C may have had a different approach to presenting the music compared to a book published in the last 10 years. 
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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #6 on: June 10, 2011, 09:17:16 PM
You are very welcome.
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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #7 on: June 10, 2011, 11:34:54 PM
Thanks guys. It reminds of the Bible being interpreted in different ways.

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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #8 on: June 11, 2011, 05:49:03 AM
Actually, the choice of edition does matter quite a bit.  In music publishing the content is often subject to editing and "interpretation", as well commentary on the music by the editors.  The degree and care to which this takes place differs greatly.  You will see some editions are heavily edited, while others labeled "Urtext" try to come as close to the original as possible with minimal interference.  You can actually get very different looking copies the same piece, depending on the editing and publishing practices. 

Additionally, editing philosophies have changed greatly within the last century.  So a book published in the early 20th C may have had a different approach to presenting the music compared to a book published in the last 10 years. 

ESPECIALLY in regards to music by Bach and earlier composers. Bach never wrote any marks in his scores, so the edition used is very important. Your son's teacher seems educated enough, though a degree from a certain institution does not necessary equal a fantastic musician. For fun, I grab my Schirmer edition of the WTC and do the opposite of what is edited in.

For Bach, I enjoy Barenreiter, though my teacher seems to enjoy Peters. If educated enough int he music of Bach, it may not matter. Anyway, I'm rambling, the question was answered. Glad you found what you needed!

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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #9 on: June 11, 2011, 10:42:23 AM
Mussolini played the piano??? Who the hell would have thought    ;D

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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #10 on: June 11, 2011, 04:31:46 PM
Mussolini played the piano??? Who the hell would have thought    ;D

Can not verify that but he sure got the trains to run on time!

(That issue has been a challenge ever since...)
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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #11 on: June 11, 2011, 07:58:07 PM
Mussolini had a son, whose name I forget, who was a jazzz pianist. I think he passed away rather recently.
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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #12 on: June 11, 2011, 08:25:48 PM
Mussolini had a son, whose name I forget, who was a jazzz pianist. I think he passed away rather recently.

Romano Mussolini, died in 2006.  The obituary read: "He made the refrains run on time". 
I'm not making that up. --s.

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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #13 on: June 12, 2011, 11:29:52 AM
Mussolini played the piano??? Who the hell would have thought    ;D

It was the last thing he ever did.

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Re: Bach Preludes and Fugues Mussolini edition
Reply #14 on: June 12, 2011, 04:32:40 PM
Are we talking about the dictator or some one else by the same name. A female descendant of the dictator ran for the Italian Parliament. I'm not sure about the rest of the family.
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