Admiration to Chopin

[faa2010]

Why Chopin's music is so remarkable and inspirational?

Was Chopin truly a very sensitive person so that's why his music can almost entirely move everyone around the world?

[countrymath]

James horner is also like that.

The Eagles and Pink Floyd too.

[ihavetoleave]

I also wonder why no one live in our time can write really good music like chopin's

[healdie]

Nearly everyone in the world? a statistical impossibility but I will concede that this was a deliberate hyperbole and will forgive it if it is

Personally I'm with Glenn Gould on this one I really don't like the music of Chopin, in fact I don't really like many of the Romantics exceptions being Brahms, and maybe some Schubert, I just don't make an emotional connection to it, occasionally I think about learning some (to fulfil my pianistic quota) but I give up relatively quickly I just doesn't hit me there

and to ihavetoleave there are dozens of composers today writing music "as good as Chopins" its just different, you can't write like that anymore because you would be 150 years out of date, it's like you can admire and really enjoy the works of Shakespeare but you couldn't write a modern novel in Shakespearean English anymore but that fact doesn't devalue Shakespeare, it's just not a relevant style to compose in today I would take Finnissy, Birtwhistle, Messiaen, and Webern over Chopin any day (granted those last couple aren't exactly contemporary but it highlights my taste and I don't wish to re-open that debate)

[gerryjay]

Chopin is a great composer, no doubt about that. But he is not universal even among the people who are into classical music, let alone people who don't care about it. I have friends who can't stand a single note of Chopin, and I'm not talking about ogres, but about a fine jazz player, or about another one who is not a musician but dislike his music.

Then, I must go with Healdie: there are plenty of composers writing music that is probably much better - if it is a matter of better and worst - than his. (Although Webern and Messiaen was cheating ). To name but one composer, Elliott Carter.

All that said, I think Chopin really have its place but sometimes people visit him too often. We should leave the old chap alone a bit more, as he would prefer for sure.

Best regards,
Jay,

[healdie]

Then, I must go with Healdie: there are plenty of composers writing music that is probably much better - if it is a matter of better and worst - than his. (Although Webern and Messiaen was cheating ). To name but one composer, Elliott Carter.

I was going to say that there is better but since this seems to be a pro-Chopin thread I didn't want to appear too provocative and yes I confess to cheating although their style is closer to todays than Chopins (I seem to be hijacking here and I will avert from doing so)

[gerryjay]

I was going to say that there is better but since this seems to be a pro-Chopin thread I didn't want to appear too provocative and yes I confess to cheating although their style is closer to todays than Chopins (I seem to be hijacking here and I will avert from doing so).

Dear Healdie,
Although it might seem the contrary, my intention is not to deliberately provocate. I am an admirer of Chopin, but there is a huge gap between admiration and fanatism. I like Chopin at the same time that something like his opus 10 n. 5 is unbereable to me. I sincerely hope I will never have to listen to it again!

Best regards,
Jay.

[thalbergmad]

I also wonder why no one live in our time can write really good music like chopin's

Because composers have run out of ideas and talent.

Thal

[sordel]

Because composers have run out of ideas and talent.

I think it would show that composers have run out of ideas and talent if they did start writing music like Chopin's.

If the test of Chopin's merits as a composer is his ability to move people, then Arvo Part is probably just as good, but they both lag behind whatever Celine Dion happens to be singing this week.

[gerryjay]

Because composers have run out of ideas and talent.

Hi, Thal. Obviously, we see things in a different way when chronology is the subject, but what you wrote make me curious: what is your ending line?
Best regards,
Jay.

[gerryjay]

If the test of Chopin's merits as a composer is his ability to move people, then Arvo Part is probably just as good, but they both lag behind whatever Celine Dion happens to be singing this week.

Well, if the move is me moving out to the nearest sink where I can vomit in peace, yes, Mrs. Dion win the contest.
Best regards,
Jay.

[pianisten1989]

Hi, Thal. Obviously, we see things in a different way when chronology is the subject, but what you wrote make me curious: what is your ending line?
Best regards,
Jay.

That the idea "Lets see how many notes I can play in 5 days and 8 hours isn't a very good idea. Though, that seems to be the common idea by more contemporary composers...

[sordel]

That the idea "Lets see how many notes I can play in 5 days and 8 hours isn't a very good idea. Though, that seems to be the common idea by more contemporary composers...

The History of Photography in Sound is only five and a half hours. Moreover, most very long pieces of music are characterised by comparatively slow transitions, hence their length. Since your post isn't at all amusing, I am forced to assume that you are simply mistaken.

[rbrentnall]

I think Chopin's works are amazing, what i know of them. Too many adjectives to describe: sublime, uplifting, awe-inspiring & just fantastic. His music just reaches that little bit of something inside and you just know that it's good. Saying that,  he's not  :the only one. There are plenty of great composers of the modern area. I do believe that Since the piano's been around now a few hundred years the different styles & possibilities have been thoroughly explored & this makes it harder to write something that will make someone go "wow, that is truly original", but there is still an infinite number of musical possibilities which is what makes music so wonderful.

[healdie]

Dear Healdie,
Although it might seem the contrary, my intention is not to deliberately provocate.

Actually I was feeling that I may have become the provocateur with my comments (being an ardent Chopin Hater)