Franz Liszt's technical exercises

[spencervirt]

What are your thought on Liszt's 86 technical exercises?

How useful are they?

Are they as indispensable (some would say) as Czerny?

Knowing Liszt, are they too difficult for most to master?

[scott13]

Czerny is completely useless. Liszt's are much much better however some of them seem to be difficult for the sake of being difficult.

I would recommend you look at Dohnanyi's exercises, they cover every foundation of essential technique and are short and to the point, and not overly difficult except a few.

[spencervirt]

Thank's for the advice!

[mlbbaseball]

What are your thought on Liszt's 86 technical exercises?

How useful are they?

Are they as indispensable (some would say) as Czerny?

Knowing Liszt, are they too difficult for most to master?

hahahahaha you mean the BachScholar guy.

They aren't indispensable because you have to be almost a super-virtuoso to play them.
However, they contain much more musical value than most of Czerny's etudes, and many of them are excellent technique-builders.

They are definitely too difficult to master for most, including me. The normal layman cannot master Feux Follets for example!

[spencervirt]

You're confusing liszt's transcendental etudes with his 83 (86?) technical exercises. His technical exercises are more like hanon than a real musical work.

It will be a while before I can play a liszt etude!

[mlbbaseball]

hahaha sorry

[scottmcc]

I have used the liszt technical exercises.  I found them to be useful, and they're certainly challenging, at least for me.  as with anything in life, balance is important.  but as a small part of one's routine, I find them helpful.