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Offline klik11

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A problematic chord in Chopin's Prelude 15
on: July 05, 2011, 01:30:18 AM
Hello, how am I supposed to play the highlighted chord in here


It's huge!
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Offline bachbrahmsschubert

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Re: A problematic chord in Chopin's Prelude 15
Reply #1 on: July 05, 2011, 01:41:27 AM
Quote from: klik11 on July 05, 2011, 01:30:18 AM
It's huge!

That's what she said.

Either play the lower f that's apart of the chord with the right hand, so you are playing an octave with the right hand  and Db - Cb with the left hand(what I do), or simply roll the chord.

Best wishes,
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Re: A problematic chord in Chopin's Prelude 15
Reply #2 on: July 05, 2011, 02:30:14 AM
Wow, your first suggestion sounds good! Gonna do it that way.

Cheers!
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Re: A problematic chord in Chopin's Prelude 15
Reply #3 on: July 05, 2011, 02:54:40 AM
But don't forget that the top note is the melody! You definitely don't want to bang out an octave, it would sound a little strange.

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Re: A problematic chord in Chopin's Prelude 15
Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 03:19:34 AM
I would go with the second suggestion (rolling the chord) by all means. If you play the f with your right hand, you will use the thumb...in an octave...in a weak part of the bar...with stress on the melody...well, I think there is very little chance of not banging it and crashing the passage.

A smooth rolled chord is nice, and let you free to sing that top note.

Best regards,
Jay.
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Re: A problematic chord in Chopin's Prelude 15
Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 05:25:44 AM
I see...
Just to be clear, "rolling the chord" means to hit the bass note with the left hand while pushing the pedal and then quickly moving to the other notes, right?
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Re: A problematic chord in Chopin's Prelude 15
Reply #6 on: July 05, 2011, 01:59:27 PM
Typically we do roll the lh chord if you're hands aren't big enough to reach the 10th, but it is fine to play the octave with the rh.

  If you're really worried about the octave method interfering with the melody you may want to consider working on playing a melody and other notes at the same time in one hand, as we have to be able to do that, and often!
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Re: A problematic chord in Chopin's Prelude 15
Reply #7 on: July 05, 2011, 05:30:12 PM
Quote from: klik11 on July 05, 2011, 05:25:44 AM
I see...
Just to be clear, "rolling the chord" means to hit the bass note with the left hand while pushing the pedal and then quickly moving to the other notes, right?
Yeap. Push the pedal and play the chord rightwards.
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Offline sucom

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Re: A problematic chord in Chopin's Prelude 15
Reply #8 on: July 06, 2011, 09:33:09 PM
I don't roll this chord because I see no reason to do so.  It's true that the right hand thumb must take the lower F but this is not a reason to avoid it.  Leaning into the top note is something that should be practised anyway, allowing the note to sing above the harmonies played below. 
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Re: A problematic chord in Chopin's Prelude 15
Reply #9 on: October 26, 2011, 11:33:45 PM
I reckon you should chop off the top note in the left hand.
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