Amy Winehouse

[geze]

Died this afternoon. What a waste of a life! . On the flip side, i did see it coming.

[lostinidlewonder]

It is a shame, another example of someone with too many dollars and not enough sense.

[starlady]

The disease of addiction has a high fatality rate, and 27 is a very dangerous age for musicians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club#cite_note-Cross-9). 

[essynia]

Nooo.


I just found out.

[mcdiddy1]

Its really sad...such a shame

[retrouvailles]

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Yet another case of someone with overblown and over marketed talent who the media saw as constant fodder, only obscuring the artists who should have been better known.

[krystellle]

I agree with you. 

[essynia]

I kind of liked her. She was really fun to choreograph.


*EDIT : I retract that statement. I liked her.

**and still do? lol.

[perfect_pitch]

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Yet another case of someone with overblown and over marketed talent who the media saw as constant fodder, only obscuring the artists who should have been better known.

I had to laugh when there were stories saying that her attempt at giving up the booze and drugs was what killed her...



I think it was the booze and drugs that killed her!

[nanabush]

Some harsh words on this forum... someone dies and I see "good riddance".  Damn.

[starlady]

Some harsh words on this forum... someone dies and I see "good riddance".  Damn.

What he said.   

She was a human being, someone's child, and she never actually killed anybody (except maybe herself), so enough hating already.   

--s. 

[retrouvailles]

I am not hating the person, I am hating more the culture that resulted over her overblown image. I have never hated Any Winehouse as a person, if it was me you were referring to. And don't say that she never killed anyone. She might be a bad influence for many young people, who may get addicted to drugs and die a similar death.

[perfect_pitch]

She was a human being, someone's child, and she never actually killed anybody (except maybe herself), so enough hating already.   

Erm.... no!

She obviously didn't respect her adoring fans who paid good money to hear her perform, without walking on stage sh*t-faced, so why should anyone respect her.

[alessandro]

I'm not a huge fan of Amy Winehouse, of her artistry, her lyrics, or her 'oeuvre', but I think that she had a very particular voice.   Since this is mainly a forum for "classical" music, it would of course be a little strange to compare her singing talent with for example Anne Sofie von Otter that a like a lot, or Maria Callas, or Cecilia Bartoli... But... her voice was very funny, very original.  A-typical.  I think, one could compare it in a way with the fragility of the voice of (another heroine- and alcohol-user) Chet Baker.   I think that some people said when he started singing 'oh come on man, shut up, stick to your horn', but I'm more in the camp of the likers.   I'm very fascinated by voices in general.  And Amy's voice was something.  Or Jonathan Jeremiah, another beautiful voice in my ears, I don't think I like the artist, but I'm very fond of his voice.
Kind greetings.

[fftransform]

Some harsh words on this forum... someone dies and I see "good riddance".  Damn.

I agree.  "Good riddance" is too soft.  I prefer "Hallelujah."

[nanabush]

Thank you for that excellent reply.

[thompson_321]

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Yet another case of someone with overblown and over marketed talent who the media saw as constant fodder, only obscuring the artists who should have been better known.

Ahhh shut up. She had a great voice, and a lot of popular artists do drugs. It's easy for you to type such a horrible little sentence on a website, but what if her family were reading this?

[thompson_321]

I agree.  "Good riddance" is too soft.  I prefer "Hallelujah."

The arguments I have had with supposedly intelligent people on piano street. The same people are saying 'Hallelujah' about Amy Winehouse dying. You are not human beings.

[pianowolfi]

The arguments I have had with supposedly intelligent people on piano street. The same people are saying 'Hallelujah' about Amy Winehouse dying. You are not human beings.

I agree completely! The explanation (not excuse) is that a lot of people don't really care about others, as soon as they realize that *omg* this person doesn't do what others, particularly they, expect from her/him. And particularly people like her might even have had some problems!!! omg!!! No decent person has ever had any problems!!! And they might even have had to struggle a lot, omg!!! No decent person ever has struggles going on in their lives!!!  And during this struggle they even might have done something that's not sanctioned by the "general consense". Omg what a crime! If she didn't die "we" (that is the generally sanctioned normal society, haha) surely must have put her into jail for her whole lifetime!!

There is somebody who wrote the book "Brave new world"....unfortunately I can't remember the name of the author atm...

[retrouvailles]

Ahhh shut up. She had a great voice, and a lot of popular artists do drugs. It's easy for you to type such a horrible little sentence on a website, but what if her family were reading this?

Look, a lot of famous musicians die, but only the severely hyped ones like Winehouse will get this sort of reception, perhaps undeservedly. I am not talking bad about her as a person, for it's always sad when someone dies, but rather I don't like the legacy that she left behind of drugs and bad decisions. Also, her voice was nothing spectacular. There are lots of people that I've met or heard in my musical community that have a better voice, but will never get her sort of fame. Why? Marketing, plain and simple. People will not remember her in 50 years, along with other hacks such as Lady Gaga. They'll remain a footnote in history.

[nanabush]

If someone says "I don't agree with the legacy she left behind", I can't really argue with that.  It's the posts like "thank god she's dead", "serves her right", etc, etc that annoy the hell out of me.

I agree that marketing is a huge thing, but is being the most noticed artist necessarily THE thing to strive for?  Half of these artists sell their soul and give up any creativity and individuality to make radio-friendly music, but it is them who get noticed.  Utmost fame can be overrated, because any little thing that 'famous person X' does WILL be scrutinized by the entire population.  That would suck IMO.

[retrouvailles]

I agree that marketing is a huge thing, but is being the most noticed artist necessarily THE thing to strive for?  Half of these artists sell their soul and give up any creativity and individuality to make radio-friendly music, but it is them who get noticed.  Utmost fame can be overrated, because any little thing that 'famous person X' does WILL be scrutinized by the entire population.  That would suck IMO.

No, not all artists strive to be the most noticed artist. I know that's not what I'm striving for. I'm striving to fulfill my artistic desires to their fullest extent, and that is the case for many artists. If I get noticed, so be it. It's just another frill. A lot of artists unfortunately sell themselves out to get noticed, though, sometimes through extraneous actions that have nothing to do with their artistry.

[ronde_des_sylphes]

There is somebody who wrote the book "Brave new world"....unfortunately I can't remember the
name of the author atm...

Aldous Huxley.

I agree that marketing is a huge thing

Evidently. Recently, Rian de Waal and Nikolai Petrov have died after (non-self-inflicted) illnesses and no-one appears to have noticed. And this is a classical piano forum!

[retrouvailles]

Evidently. Recently, Rian de Waal and Nikolai Petrov have died after (non-self-inflicted) illnesses and no-one appears to have noticed. And this is a classical piano forum!

Actually, I noticed, and I mentioned it on another forum. There hasn't been one mention of Amy Winehouse there, though! I was hoping that it would be like that here, too, but unfortunately not.