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Offline nacelle

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Fingering correction?
on: July 26, 2011, 05:33:08 PM
Hello! 
I'm currently working on a new piece, and I was wondering if the fingering I'm using for the left hand so far is correct.  The bottom line is treble clef, by the way.



Measure One: 5, 2, 1, 5, 1, 5
Measure Two: 5, 2, 1, 2, 3, 5
Measure Three: 5, 2, 1, 5, 1, 5

Offline werq34ac

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Re: Fingering correction?
Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 06:07:32 PM
Do you have small hands? The fingerings used seem to be for a much smaller hand than mine (as in like hand span barely an octave).

I wouldn't end each measure with a 5 since it makes it awkward to play the next one. Try using 3 instead so 521513 for measures 1 and 3 and 521213 for measure 2 or something just so that you dont have to play two 5s in a row.

Also, I'm not sure about going 521513, shifting your hand up like that might be a little unnecessary if you can play with a 3 instead. So 521313. And even better if you can reach it,  52121.

And for the second measure, personally, I would use 532123 since it fits my hand better, but there's no problem with 521213 if you can play smoothly.
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Offline nyiregyhazi

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Re: Fingering correction?
Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 06:27:00 PM
Hello! 
I'm currently working on a new piece, and I was wondering if the fingering I'm using for the left hand so far is correct.  The bottom line is treble clef, by the way.



Measure One: 5, 2, 1, 5, 1, 5
Measure Two: 5, 2, 1, 2, 3, 5
Measure Three: 5, 2, 1, 5, 1, 5



Think positions- for this and in general. The first is two seamless positions of three notes each. The first group fits 521 and the second fits 3 and 1 (with no break in legato). In the second bar, it makes no sense to cross over the thumb. Think of a single note plus a position of three notes- likely done with 321. In this case, you might not necessarily worry about connecting the bass to the next. The pedal can do it just fine.

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Re: Fingering correction?
Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 06:29:20 PM
Thank you for the corrections!  :)

werq34ac: Yes, I suppose my hands are kind of small, the farthest they can span is nine keys.

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Re: Fingering correction?
Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 06:29:33 PM
I agree. The fingering seems geared for a smaller hand. You could also alternatively try using

521313 521212 521313 - This fingering would allow you to stay in one position with having to to shift up and down so much. It you use that fingering you would want to accommodate some of the stretches using your wrist and arms to reach.

Also what tempo is this music in. If it is a fast tempo my fingering would work well but if it is slow one the fingering you choose could potentially work (except for the repeated 5 thing)

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Re: Fingering correction?
Reply #5 on: July 26, 2011, 06:37:46 PM
The sheet music doesn't have the tempo marked, but here is the song:

Offline werq34ac

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Re: Fingering correction?
Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 08:35:06 PM
Thank you for the corrections!  :)

werq34ac: Yes, I suppose my hands are kind of small, the farthest they can span is nine keys.

The fingerings i mentioned shouldn't be a problem then. The first and 3rd measures should be 521313 or 521212 whichever is more comfortable.
The second one I change my answer. You shouldn't put your thumb on a black key, especially since you're crossing over. Although it's doable, 532123 is much more comfortable and I think it's really the only option other than putting a thumb on a black key.

If you're finding this uncomfortable, move your wrists so that you can "reach" each note. Moving your wrist changes the angle at which your hand faces the keys so that some intervals (i.e. the second measure requires 53 to reach a 6th) become more reachable.
Ravel Jeux D'eau
Brahms 118/2
Liszt Concerto 1
Rachmaninoff/Kreisler Liebesleid
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