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Offline arturgajewski

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Perfect practices and Etudes for a beginner
on: August 12, 2011, 12:26:59 PM
What is in your opinion the best way to start on serious practicing, meaning which Etudes would you recommend for a beginner just starting with piano?

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Re: Perfect practices and Etudes for a beginner
Reply #1 on: August 12, 2011, 05:30:45 PM
Not Hanon, i do not recommend him at all. Do you have a teacher? I would consider getting one, because they will help guide you through everything. I would get a piano method book for an absolute beginner, as it will give you a good, solid knowledge.
It might be slightly babyish, but this is what I used at the age of 6. :)

https://www.musicroom.com/se/ID_No/03790/details.html


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Re: Perfect practices and Etudes for a beginner
Reply #2 on: August 12, 2011, 06:12:52 PM
Why not Hanon? I have read his practices are boring, but I am not looking for a melodic practices but the ones that will train my left hand as well.

When I become better with my left hand and all 10 finger overall, I will enjoy playing melodies and songs, but getting fingers comfortable and independent means hard practice for me so the boring etudes, if they are good with the outcome, are welcome for me.

My daughters are having a piano teacher and I have played most of their lessons from a similar book as well, written by Michael Aaron.

What about Chopin Etudes? I love his Nocturnes and am big fan of Chopin but never really tried his Etudes.

Offline chopinspride

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Re: Perfect practices and Etudes for a beginner
Reply #3 on: August 12, 2011, 09:19:24 PM
It depends if you want to take things seriously or not :). I apologize if I offended you buy suggesting the Chester's book! I didn't know what level you were you see. :)

If you want etudes, i'll give you etudes.  :)

One the most importart things a pianist can practise is scales.

I would buy a grade 1 scale book for just now, (published by ABRSM). Scales are excellent for you. They increase your fluency at the keyboard as well as strengthening your fingers. Go through the whole book, and after you feel confident enough, move on to grade 2, grade 3, grade 4.... etc etc. (The ABRSM syllabus goes up to grade 8)

I would not recommend Hanon. I never played Hanon and perhaps I am slightly biassed, but I believe, playing too early will lead to unmusical playing. I could be biassed though, so try if you want. (Just don't go overboard. I know pianists promote who it so much. It is not the magical "cure" you have been seeking.)

I recommend Beringer and Czerny.

This book is what I started off with - https://www.musicroom.com/se/ID_No/042312/details.html Go through each-one slowly. They are very difficult and I don't believe they can be truly "mastered."

Beringer is excellent. https://www.musicroom.com/se/ID_No/020072/details.html - Try the first ones slowly. They are good because the cover all the keys.

This is the "serious" route. Countless hours of practising over years. To play Chopin's masterworks well, this is the way.

I can appreciate ,however, that this commitment is not available to you as an adult. So, please, play your Chopin nocturnes and etudes. Music should be judged solely by joy. If you really want to, please play what you like.

I just want to let you know that Chopin etudes are not "boring practice" vehicles. They are wonderful music of extreme difficulity. Listen to them.



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Offline asiantraveller101

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Re: Perfect practices and Etudes for a beginner
Reply #4 on: August 12, 2011, 11:09:07 PM
What about Chopin Etudes? I love his Nocturnes and am big fan of Chopin but never really tried his Etudes.
WHAT??? Chopin etudes are for advanced and very advanced players. And so are the nocturnes.  ;D
My apology if I quash your enthusiasm, but you need to take small steps! However, it is great that you have dream of playing Chopin's work. I am sure you will someday if you keep practicing and working on it! Best wishes!
PS. Chopinspride has given you some great advice.

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Re: Perfect practices and Etudes for a beginner
Reply #5 on: August 12, 2011, 11:19:37 PM
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Can we do without the Catholic crap??? Please? This is a piano forum after all.

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Re: Perfect practices and Etudes for a beginner
Reply #6 on: August 13, 2011, 12:10:07 AM
Can we do without the Catholic crap??? Please? This is a piano forum after all.

i know this will sound really bad but I laughed heartily when I read this comment :)

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Re: Perfect practices and Etudes for a beginner
Reply #7 on: August 13, 2011, 06:14:45 AM
What is in your opinion the best way to start on serious practicing, meaning which Etudes would you recommend for a beginner just starting with piano?

It depends on what you mean by Serious Practicing. It depends on what level the beginner is. It depends on the person. It depends on the persons interests. It depends on the persons time. It depends on the persons aspirations. It doesn't have to be Etudes, it depends on what music interests the student and what a teacher diagnoses as most important. It depends.
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Re: Perfect practices and Etudes for a beginner
Reply #8 on: August 13, 2011, 10:51:36 AM
All I want at this point is to have independent left and right hand and their extensions called fingers  ;D

I can do 123454321 with both hands no problem, but for example 12324321 can cause problems.

I downloaded Hanon Virtuoso Pianist and it seems just what I am looking for. Will give that a try.
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