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Offline bugsducky

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Chopin Prelude nr. 11
on: August 22, 2011, 07:31:45 PM
Am i wrong, or does everybody plays this piece 3/4 rhythm instead of 6/8?

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Re: Chopin Prelude nr. 11
Reply #1 on: August 22, 2011, 07:57:17 PM
Most certainly not, they just bring out the hemiolas in m. 5, 9 and at similar places throughout the piece.

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Re: Chopin Prelude nr. 11
Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 08:31:32 PM
Thanks for the anwser. I looked up what hemiolas are, watched a bunch of youtube movies and i understand now.
Still, some are strange. Ivo Pogorelich the most.

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Re: Chopin Prelude nr. 11
Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 09:01:26 PM
What a wonderful interpretation! So leggiero :) I don't know, but I can't find anything strange in it.

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Re: Chopin Prelude nr. 11
Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 09:11:50 PM
Then i'm afraid i don't understand it quite yet.  :-\
I also think it is wonderfull btw. But i can't help counting till 3 from the very beginning.
(i also see i might be posting in the wrong section as a newbee)

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Re: Chopin Prelude nr. 11
Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 11:24:25 PM
A fast 6/8 is rather counted like a 2/2 with two triplets: 1..2..1..2..
Btw welcome to Pianostreet! :)
Yes such questions should be rather posted in the Student's corner :)

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Re: Chopin Prelude nr. 11
Reply #6 on: August 23, 2011, 12:03:57 AM
Most certainly not, they just bring out the hemiolas in m. 5, 9 and at similar places throughout the piece.

Is it really a hemiola though? I don't recall slurring to indicate it as being one and it's not a melodic shape that inherently demands thinking 3*2 rather than 2*3. I'm not saying necessarily "wrong" conceive it that way, but I don't see the music as suggesting an inherent hemiola either. Even melodic shape (often a strong pointer) does not always point to one. Just look at Fur Elise and the last movement of the Tempest. The phrase lengths of each suggests 2*3 rather than 3*2 but I think it's abundantly clear from the time signature that he wants both to be heard as 3*2.

EDIT- sorry just realised I was thinking of the following bar 6. I don't like it when people make that one sound like 3*2- which is pretty frequent.

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Re: Chopin Prelude nr. 11
Reply #7 on: August 23, 2011, 02:55:56 PM
Thanks for now. I'll do some homework and come back at the students corner.
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