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Offline m1469

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Role of Church Pianist/Organist?
on: September 18, 2011, 11:59:11 PM
I'm curious about some of the specifics here.  There's been a bit of drama of late at my church job, for which I solo sing and organize the musicians (and have mostly chosen not to be playing the piano).

Specifically, I wonder if you think it's the role of the pianist/organist to lead the hymns or to treat it more like a person would with a solo singer where the singer decides in the moments things like tempo and nuance?  I know that for solo singing, etc, there are actually huge amounts of teamwork involved, but for the sake of ease, I have posed it this way.

The drama lately has been that the pastors have wanted to be the final word on tempi, overall musical mood, etc, but the pianist in this case feels it is his/her responsibility to lead the congregation in these things.  And, it has come up especially because in a recent service the pianist played quite a bit more quickly than the congregation was used to and the congregation barely had time to breathe (and there arose a complaint which started a bigger problem).

What do you think?
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Re: Role of Church Pianist/Organist?
Reply #1 on: September 20, 2011, 01:56:09 AM
Hi Malya,

I have been working as a church pianist since the age of 16. I'm now 27 with 11 years experience in various churches, some of which have very contrasting styles and approaches to worship and organized music. I have encountered many interesting, difficult and amusing situations.

The first piece of advice I will offer is this: the church is a place of worship, and at all times it is important to all musicians and organizers to try and work in harmony, as a team. This is often very difficult because there is such a variety of people coming together, and a lot of times there is a wide spectrum of aesthetic perceptions and technical abilities. When there is a sense of friction or regret from one member to the other, perhaps over a matter such as tempo or style, the entire reason for being there to worship and focus on spiritual matters is counteracted.

Therefore, my first piece of advice would be to make it your priority to preserve the sense of unity and harmony among the musicians. I'm sure you could take the pianist aside and advise him/her to play in a more suitable tempo because, as a singer you can say from experience, the congregation need more opportunity to breathe between phrases. I think the pianist will take advice better if you begin by complimenting him/ her on some aspect of their playing. Perhaps something like: "I've always enjoyed the wonderful lyrical qualities of your playing. Have you ever considered that playing slower may allow the rich harmony you play to resonate more?" or.... "Perhaps playing slower will help the congregation to meditate on the meaning of the text?- such beautiful lyrics!". This is only a suggestion -i'm sure you will know what to say to suit the context of the situation you have there. I have found that sharing positive compliments is the best way to prepare the person for the sensitive topic that you really feel the need to discuss.


Can I ask why you have chosen not to play the piano as you lead in singing? If you feel comfortable with that, or if you feel you could work on this aspect of your own performance, then this could be a fairly attainable solution. You are an experienced singer and therefore you are probably more sensitive to the needs of the congregation, in terms of breathing and clarity of diction, than the current pianist is.

Often praise teams play too fast and I think this is mainly down to lack of experience or insensitivity (sometimes nerves) or a feeling of EGO often associated with being exposed as a musician. Perhaps you could call a mid-week meeting, for all the people elected to contribute, and as supervisor of the music you could remind everyone of the fundamentals and present general advice to the group without having the need to single out the piano player. Perhaps a few rehearsals would be in order. If he/she doesn't take the hint then I would advise you to take them aside and speak more directly. If they don't adapt then replace that person or do it yourself.

In defense of the pianist, at times a congregation can become 'stuck in their ways' and although it's our job to serve through music, often a little change or a new approach can be revitalizing, without becoming too extreme. Making larger, more drastic changes, to the worship music should be seen as a gradual and long-term renovation. More than often the shocking, sudden approach is not accepted by the majority. But with a little tact you can introduce some sustainable changes for the better. Perhaps the pianist felt the music was being 'dragged' too much and tried to pull the music along by playing fast. It would be more effective to speed it up gradually over a course of weeks, until the congregation grow accustomed to it. Often the congregation CAN sing a little faster but they decide they WON'T. This may be the situation here- i'm not sure.

But just be holistic when you are reviewing the situation. Consider everyone's perspective, carefully, before voicing your concerns. Be wise and fair. Maintain the harmony and happiness among the team. What's the point of being there otherwise?!

I hope this is a little help to you and i'm sure that i've touched on things you have already considered. But I will say one thing that spoke volumes to me... people may forget what you have said but they will never forget how you made them feel. The church is supposed to be a network of support and building up of each other...and at all lengths let this be your central goal. In any case, you made a very good first step to ask for advice. I'm sure there will be more people who will contribute further and give you some varied and useful tips and advice.
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Re: Role of Church Pianist/Organist?
Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 02:35:55 AM
people may forget what you have said but they will never forget how you made them feel.

This is very nice.  Your whole post is wonderful and I thank you very much!

I have been frustrated for months, actually, as this is a little church that I grew up in and it is going through major changes and is having numbers of issues aside from what I brought up here.  My town is fairly cultured and there are members of the church who feel they are quite cultured and feel it is their duty to point everything out about what a musician (who are professionals, sometimes young professionals but still) needs to be doing better.  Including thinking they are on par with a vocal coach and would like me to pass information along to sub-soloists (who are being taught and coached by professional teachers) about where to move the vowel at certain times, etc..  There is a lot of nitpicking and from this particular individual, no sense of gratitude or trace of noticing the many sensitive and beautiful things that in fact very consistently are taking place.  Well, I could go on and on about that!  I've talked with these people and with one individual in particular on several occasions and there is just no mutual-seeming understanding.

I'm not positive why exactly I chose what I did regarding singing vs. playing.  The two pianists I hired and who are playing now, were hired at at time when the girl who had been regularly soloing (in my place when I decided to start playing) moved as well as the woman who had been the organist for CENTURIES (though had cut back to half-months) was leaving.  I've still played once in a while, but generally I find it easier to prepare one solo to sing than to prepare an entire service to play.  And, over the months, have become discouraged about any of it at all.  

Part of the recent problem is that I thought I was very graciously and impersonally passing along a critique about that particular time of playing too fast, by saying in an email to one of the pianists "And just a friendly reminder from the pastors for the pianists and soloists to be sensitive to the congregation's pacing and breath during hymns."  That was apparently too general (which I now understand) and the pianist didn't react well at. all. because she thought it meant that there was a general dissatisfaction with her playing and that nobody noticed any of the very many beautiful things that she consistently IS doing every time she plays!  And, I know exactly why she thinks that, because nobody ever bothers to really point those things out!  I am ashamed to say that even I, who has played and who knows exactly what it feels like, have been "too busy-minded" to take a moment to say something nice (well, OK, it's not like she's handing compliments to my singing, either, but still).  

Anyway.  I guess what you say is the thing ... it's just become something that I don't understand.
"The greatest thing in this world is not so much where we are, but in what direction we are moving"  ~Oliver Wendell Holmes
 

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