Help with Scriabin Etude Op. 8 no. 9

[postirony]

I need serious help with a measure that i just cannot seem to get.  it's the 6th from last measure, and it's very difficult (at least for me  ).  also, the score from imslp has all their footnotes in russian.  please help!

EDIT: attached a picture with the measure i'm talking about.

[danhuyle]

Looking at the image, if you take away the middle voice in the right hand, it's nothing you can't do. All the triplets end on the G.

You could practice your scales in octaves using your fourth finger on the black notes. It's something that any teacher would tell you.

How about take away the middle voice, then when you're used to it, you can add it in? It's how I would practice this passage.

How long are your hands? My left hand can play a 10th whereas my right hand can only play a 9th.

[postirony]

the triplets and the 4 over 3 is the easy part.  the only difficulty i have is with the inner voices.  i'm considering leaving them out completely, although, not sure how acceptable that is for a performance.

p.s. if you know the piece at all, that downward triplet and the repeated G# is a very common recurring theme throughout the piece, so i have grown quite accustomed to playing it

EDIT: that post script might be confusing if you didn't know that the key is in g# minor

[danhuyle]

Metronome practice the semiquaver part with the inner voices until you can play them on crotchet beats.

I have played Scriabin Etude Op8 no12 and that's got inner voices too. I left it out at the beginning, then later on, I added the inner voices. From my experience with Etude Op8/12, it's practicing to get the feel until the hand feel comfortable in addition to get the clarity of it. The clarity of the middle voice is one of the challenges with Op8/12.

 

[nyiregyhazi]

I need serious help with a measure that i just cannot seem to get.  it's the 6th from last measure, and it's very difficult (at least for me  ).  also, the score from imslp has all their footnotes in russian.  please help!

EDIT: attached a picture with the measure i'm talking about.

I don't think it's necessarily supposed to be executed literally. I seem to recall something in the Peter's edition- possibly just to omit the third G sharp triplet. If you play the first two notes of the triplet as a cross-rhythm, but forget the third, it's enough to imply the third. There's no way you could fit the extra thumb note in between the semiquavers at any proper tempo.

[postirony]

I don't think it's necessarily supposed to be executed literally. I seem to recall something in the Peter's edition- possibly just to omit the third G sharp triplet. If you play the first two notes of the triplet as a cross-rhythm, but forget the third, it's enough to imply the third. There's no way you could fit the extra thumb note in between the semiquavers at any proper tempo.

i just tried that, that really helps!  thanks.