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Offline megadodd

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on: October 05, 2011, 09:56:02 PM
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Repertoire.
2011/2012

Brahms op 118
Chopin Preludes op 28
Grieg Holberg Suite
Mendelssohn Piano trio D minor op 49
Rachmaninoff Etude Tabelaux op 33 no 3 & 4 op 39 no 2
Scriabin Preludes op 1

Offline werq34ac

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Re: Expectations for lessons
Reply #1 on: October 06, 2011, 01:37:57 AM
I find that unless there is something fundamentally wrong with my technique, the teacher does not point it out since it is understood that technical blips happen and should be practiced out. Make too many and your teacher will know you didn't practice very much. I mean it is fairly obvious when you play a wrong note, or super accent a note you didn't mean to.
Ravel Jeux D'eau
Brahms 118/2
Liszt Concerto 1
Rachmaninoff/Kreisler Liebesleid

Offline akasimone

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Re: Expectations for lessons
Reply #2 on: October 06, 2011, 04:02:47 AM
Well, I'm a student, not a teacher, so maybe this won't help so much, but I can try to explain what I think I got out of my lessons when I started studying with my teacher in college.

First, as werq34ac mentioned, the focus isn't always technical, but in my case, there actually were some fundamental problems with my technique, which I hadn't realized, and having my teacher point them out and fix them made worlds of difference.  It sounds like you've been self-taught, so maybe there are some general technical things you're getting wrong.  Also, I think there's more to technique than just playing the right notes; there are so many nuanced sounds you can get out of the instrument, and I think my teacher helped me (a) realize that, and (b) really figure out how to control that.

There are a huge number of different dimensions along which your playing can vary--the notes, tempo, dynamics, color, on down to things harder to define, like mood, emotion, etc.  For any piece, you can improve in all of these aspects and get closer to a sort of ideal version of it (which may or may not be the same as anyone else's ideal version).  But, sometimes it's hard to figure out exactly what aspect you need to improve (and how to do that) in order to move closer to your ideal.  So instead of thinking "Ok, this needs to go faster," you think "Hm... this could sound better somehow... I think..."  For me, this was where my teacher helped me--pointing out specific things that I didn't even know I was doing wrong, and getting me to fix them.  Which, on a week-by-week basis, made the pieces I was working on sound so much better, and also made me better in general in the long term because I started to learn to pay attention to all different aspects of my playing whenever I learned new pieces.

Anyway.  Just my 2 cents.  I think if you do have a really good teacher, they'll figure out how to improve your particular skills and you'll really notice the difference.  Good luck! Hope you enjoy it!

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Re: Expectations for lessons
Reply #3 on: October 06, 2011, 10:11:39 PM

First, as werq34ac mentioned, the focus isn't always technical, but in my case, there actually were some fundamental problems with my technique, which I hadn't realized, and having my teacher point them out and fix them made worlds of difference.  It sounds like you've been self-taught, so maybe there are some general technical things you're getting wrong.  Also, I think there's more to technique than just playing the right notes; there are so many nuanced sounds you can get out of the instrument, and I think my teacher helped me (a) realize that, and (b) really figure out how to control that.

There are a huge number of different dimensions along which your playing can vary--the notes, tempo, dynamics, color, on down to things harder to define, like mood, emotion, etc.  For any piece, you can improve in all of these aspects and get closer to a sort of ideal version of it (which may or may not be the same as anyone else's ideal version).  But, sometimes it's hard to figure out exactly what aspect you need to improve (and how to do that) in order to move closer to your ideal.  So instead of thinking "Ok, this needs to go faster," you think "Hm... this could sound better somehow... I think..."  For me, this was where my teacher helped me--pointing out specific things that I didn't even know I was doing wrong, and getting me to fix them.  Which, on a week-by-week basis, made the pieces I was working on sound so much better, and also made me better in general in the long term because I started to learn to pay attention to all different aspects of my playing whenever I learned new pieces.


Ah yes, Technique is not all about the notes! It's about your control over pedal, tone, color, dynamics, voicing, balance, articulation, rhythmic elements, rubato etc. And of course we combine these things for expression to make music. Making music and piano technique are fundamentally tied together. It's up to the pianist to make intelligent decisions about technique in order to express oneself.
Ravel Jeux D'eau
Brahms 118/2
Liszt Concerto 1
Rachmaninoff/Kreisler Liebesleid
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